Argument from evil, restated

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Argument from evil, restated

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RE: Argument from evil, restated

May 23, 2013 at 3:21 pm

(May 23, 2013 at 2:27 pm)Raven Wrote:
(May 23, 2013 at 2:19 pm)John V Wrote: Sorry to burst your bubble, but all you have to do is replace "is malevolent" with "has his own purposes."

No, he is malevolent. But you can't afford to admit that to yourself.

No, He is just. But you believe you can't afford to admit that to yourself.

God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.

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Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 21, 2013 at 2:47 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 21, 2013 at 3:05 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 21, 2013 at 3:13 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 21, 2013 at 3:55 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 21, 2013 at 4:07 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 21, 2013 at 7:23 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 21, 2013 at 7:03 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 21, 2013 at 9:42 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 22, 2013 at 12:44 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Undeceived - May 21, 2013 at 11:11 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 21, 2013 at 3:14 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 22, 2013 at 12:40 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 21, 2013 at 3:16 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 21, 2013 at 4:12 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 21, 2013 at 4:36 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 21, 2013 at 3:59 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 21, 2013 at 5:48 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 22, 2013 at 8:30 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Sal - May 21, 2013 at 6:17 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Raven - May 21, 2013 at 6:37 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 21, 2013 at 6:54 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 21, 2013 at 7:08 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 21, 2013 at 10:37 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 21, 2013 at 11:17 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 22, 2013 at 8:32 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Brakeman - May 21, 2013 at 9:32 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 21, 2013 at 11:14 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 22, 2013 at 1:58 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 22, 2013 at 2:17 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 22, 2013 at 2:44 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 22, 2013 at 2:18 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Minimalist - May 22, 2013 at 2:21 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 22, 2013 at 7:56 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 22, 2013 at 2:54 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 22, 2013 at 11:20 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 23, 2013 at 8:06 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 23, 2013 at 3:48 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 24, 2013 at 1:35 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 24, 2013 at 5:57 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 24, 2013 at 6:08 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 25, 2013 at 3:55 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Esquilax - May 25, 2013 at 4:42 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 25, 2013 at 8:22 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 22, 2013 at 8:10 am

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RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 22, 2013 at 3:04 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 22, 2013 at 4:39 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 22, 2013 at 7:30 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 22, 2013 at 7:07 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 22, 2013 at 4:45 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Sal - May 22, 2013 at 7:00 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 22, 2013 at 7:25 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Esquilax - May 22, 2013 at 9:15 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 23, 2013 at 12:34 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 23, 2013 at 2:26 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 23, 2013 at 3:20 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 23, 2013 at 3:59 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Sal - May 23, 2013 at 4:07 pm

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RE: Argument from evil, restated - by pocaracas - May 23, 2013 at 4:09 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Raven - May 23, 2013 at 5:11 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 23, 2013 at 12:28 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 23, 2013 at 8:53 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by little_monkey - May 23, 2013 at 8:58 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 23, 2013 at 10:13 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by little_monkey - May 23, 2013 at 10:18 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 23, 2013 at 1:04 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by little_monkey - May 23, 2013 at 1:07 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by pocaracas - May 22, 2013 at 7:30 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Raven - May 23, 2013 at 2:10 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 23, 2013 at 9:25 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 24, 2013 at 12:02 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 23, 2013 at 2:19 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Raven - May 23, 2013 at 2:27 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 23, 2013 at 3:08 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 23, 2013 at 3:20 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 23, 2013 at 3:45 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 23, 2013 at 3:21 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 23, 2013 at 3:01 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 23, 2013 at 3:30 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 23, 2013 at 3:48 pm

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RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 23, 2013 at 4:45 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 23, 2013 at 5:46 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by pocaracas - May 23, 2013 at 5:56 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Esquilax - May 23, 2013 at 9:00 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 23, 2013 at 5:50 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Raven - May 23, 2013 at 5:56 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 23, 2013 at 7:21 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 23, 2013 at 11:28 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 24, 2013 at 12:12 am

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RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 24, 2013 at 1:03 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by FallentoReason - May 24, 2013 at 1:28 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Undeceived - May 24, 2013 at 2:13 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Esquilax - May 24, 2013 at 3:30 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by FallentoReason - May 24, 2013 at 9:30 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 24, 2013 at 9:43 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by John V - May 24, 2013 at 11:43 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Neo-Scholastic - May 24, 2013 at 2:54 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 24, 2013 at 2:47 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 24, 2013 at 11:16 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 24, 2013 at 11:17 am

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Ryantology - May 24, 2013 at 1:21 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 24, 2013 at 2:16 pm

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RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Sal - May 24, 2013 at 2:28 pm

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RE: Argument from evil, restated - by The Grand Nudger - May 24, 2013 at 2:55 pm

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RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Praetorian - May 24, 2013 at 6:08 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Drich - May 24, 2013 at 11:42 pm

RE: Argument from evil, restated - by Godschild - May 25, 2013 at 3:36 am

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