(May 23, 2013 at 5:46 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(May 23, 2013 at 4:45 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Again, in each case, it isn't god being judged, but god claims.That's a total cop-out. If you make a statement, like "God is evil." then you are judging both a certain conception of god and the claim about god. If the god, as conceived, actually exists, then you are if fact pronouncing judgement on that God. For example, if I say, "That chair is stable because it has four legs," and you say, "No it's not stable. It has four legs but one is broken." then we are talking about both the chair and why it is or is not stable.
When someone says "if god exists", then the judgement is on the claim of god's characteristics.
How else do we have access to those characteristics, if not by someone else's claims? Last I checked, the claims came in two forms: oral and/or written....
And in both I see the hand of man...