Argument from evil, restated

[Fidel_Castronaut]

---

I believe through the scriptures and reasoning that God did not create evil, Lucifer brought evil into existence by living outside the will of God. This makes Lucifer responsible for the evil in the creation. I could plant and grow a beautiful garden, which I'm responsible for and then some crazy comes along with a truck and drives through the garden and mess it up.

---

The difference being that you didn't create the truck with the foreknowledge that it would one day crash into your garden and mess up your tulips.

How do you know I did not fix-up the truck and sell it to him, knowing he was a very bad driver who could possibly run through my garden. Does this mean I should forego my garden, I hardly think so. I should do just as God did, have a judgement brought upon the driver and then fix what he destroyed.

Missed the point.

You didn't create the driver with the propensity to destroy something you created. You also didn't create the driver with that propensity and simultaneously create an eternal punishment for that propensity using the same rules.

The whole perspective you've taken puts you in a box. You can't get around it by saying "but Satan!" when satan was a creation of god, you know, the all powerful, all knowing being that, by definition, must have known already what would happen the moment he 'created' satan (it would have actually known it in time immaterial if it's omni-faceted, but w/e).

What I explained above destroys the box you want to put me in. By the way God created Lucifer, it was Lucifer who made himself into Satan.

Copout.

Your god created lucifer with the foreknowledge he would become satan (using the idea that it's omni-faceted).

You haven't destroyed your box, you've just imagined it away, which is entirely expected

What's the difference between "I desire to have sex with my wife" and "I want to have sex with my wife"?

There is no difference between a desire and a want, nether are absolute for your personal survival. Gees.

Sorry, I misread thinking you'd written desire and want Implying no synonymous link.

But again, I know this will just go entirely over your head, but an omni-faceted god is by definition perfect, it would want/need/desire for nothing. The idea that a perfect being would create something and desire their worship is, well, quite sickening really.