(May 31, 2013 at 4:18 pm)whatever76 Wrote:Quote:Yes, they'd want to be in heaven. But they'd choose heaven for pleasure, not for God. Desiring something, no matter how much, cannot persuade you to love somebody. If a millionaire told you, "Love me and I'll give you a car," could you do it? You might love the car, but not the man. It is impossible to love someone who is a means (of instrumental value) and not an end (destination). If God is not an end in your life right now, the offer of a different end won't change anything. God said, "Have no other gods before me." If you value heaven above God, you cannot inherit heaven.
If this topic still interests you, read Luke 16:19–31:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...ersion=NLT
If so, then why even bring up heaven or hell? Why tell the story of what happens to people who have everything they wanted and didn't help others if not to play upon their desires and fears?
You would be hard pressed to prove to me that what you believe is not out of fear of what will happen to you if you don't. A religion where everyone got into heaven no matter what they believed or did wouldn't have much influence, now would it? Fear is a requirement.
Fear is not a requirement, where did you get such an idea, I know it did not come from the scriptures. Fear can be a cause, but never a requirement.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.