(May 31, 2013 at 2:06 pm)Undeceived Wrote: ..
God is the millionaire who says "love me and I'll give you a car" (heaven). But you have to agree to love him before you get to see the car. Why does the sight of the car or the sight (via death) of the punishment (Hell) matter with the promise (threat)?
Thanks for seeing my point. The girl won't love her kidnapper, and you won't love the millionaire. Likewise, people won't love God even if they are given a second chance or offered a reward. They must see their need for a savior, and humbly ask Him for life. Humbleness is a requirement for heaven. Humbleness cannot be manipulated by human desire.
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No, I don't "get" your addled "point." The title "savior" that you attach to your jesus fellow implicitly means that christians love him because he is to save them from a torture that he has created for them. A girl on the street does not love a person that threatens her even is she hasn't seen the basement torture chamber yet. The christian "love" for jesus is totally a psychotic Stockholm syndrome effect. It is a gushing of relief that "the bad man won't hurt her" type of emotion. It is not real love.
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