(November 28, 2008 at 12:15 pm)Psalm 23 Wrote: Hello atheists, skeptics, agnostics.. & Christians?Greetings. Well you see the thing is its a matter of probability, or improbability in this case rather. Lets not ignore that matter.
I'm just stopping by to debate and discuss religion and I often wonder why people turn to atheism if God can't be proven or disproven. It makes me think why would people turn their back on a God if they are not 100% sure? Even the author of the book, "The God Delusion" admitted that he cannot prove Jesus wasn't God. So, it makes me wonder why would someone take such a dangerous risk with their eternal fate.
I will reply to everyone in a friendly manner, but I will NOT reply to insults, defamatory statements or remarks, or slanderous remarks towards God.
If you want to hold a civilized debate about God, then let's get this place rockin'!
Yes you cannot disprove the existence of God. But you can't disprove the existence of ANY God or anything supernatural. A flying spaghetti monster an invisible and intangible and yet also pink unicorn.
You cannot disprove that there is an invisible intangible Goblin in the room with you right now.
But lets not ignore the matter of probability here. All these things are obviously totally absurd and highly improbable. Because something needs to be proved that it DOES exist not proved that it does NOT exist. It's called the burden of proof. There needs to be evidence of Gods existence not evidence that God doesn't exist. Just as there doesn't need to be evidence that there is NOT an invisible intangible giant donkey in the sky that controls the universe.
To say its 50 50 that God exists or doesn't or that we have to be totally impartial and say we can't even ESTIMATE the probability to say that its highly UNlikely because there's NO evidence of existence or highly likely because theres mountains of evidence of its existence. And of course in the case of God there is certainly not mountains of evidence of his/her/its existence.
I do NOT think there is ANY. That makes God highly improbable just as it does with the intangible/donkey/unicorn/goblin/ spaghetti monster etc.
So we certainly should not ignore the matter or probability (or improbability) and the burden of proof. You don't need any reason to disbelief something other that there is no logical reason to believe that very thing. And no evidence of the truth of it.
To believe something however you need good logical reasons and you need evidence.
The burden of proof is on the believer.
Anyway, welcome and may you find more truth.
