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[Godscreated]

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Ok you two, let's look at America where God is being kicked out at every turn. This country is in crisis, it is falling apart and if you can't see this then get out of the closet and look, less of God means more evil, where God isn't evil will move in.

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Less of God means that women will have more rights over their own body and their reproduction.

Why shouldn't women take responsibility for their bodies before hand, condoms would eliminate many abortions, abortions are harder on a women's body than prevention. It only seems reasonable doesn't, what woman doesn't know this, and this would also help in slowing down STD's. So until women can show responsibility for their bodies and quit killing innocent life, I'll be complaining. Yes I would rather see women and men practice abstinence according to God's will and if they did that too would be a choice.

Less of God means that homosexuals will no longer be treated like second class citizens and will enjoy all the rights and benefits us heterosexuals have.

Since I do not see this as a normal life even before I became a Christian, I still do not think homosexuals should have the right to marry, it's not natural and adds nothing to a society.

You think these things are evil?

Abortion is murder and homosexuality is not part of the natural order.

Let me break it down in a way you MIGHT be able to understand.

You think abortion is wrong, correct? Against God's will.

Said so twice now, yes it's against God's will.

Let me ask you, why did God give us the ability to go against him?

To choose to love Him or reject Him, nothing more nothing less.

Free will, correct? God thought it was REALLY, REALLY important that us humans have free will.

God did not have to think it was important, in His omniscience He knew it was the only way to express real love.

So how are you advancing his plan by taking away your fellow citizen's right and free will to have an abortion if they disagree with you?

The free will given us by God is about choosing between Him and ourselves, then the righteousness of God will either be a part of us or it want, if not then one may choose abortion. So you see it's not about choosing to do right and wrong, God showed that through the Israelites. It's about choosing to live in a relationship with Him and allowing His righteousness to be a part of our lives. Christians do not always do that and sometimes screw up royally. When we do we repent and try and return to a living relationship with Him.

Or to take away free will for someone to live in a same sex marriage without being discriminated against?

God calls that type of relationship an abomination, how else should one who wants to live in a relationship with God disagree with His omniscient being. God says it is an unnatural relationship, He being the creator should know this correct? Do not misunderstand me I believe homosexuals should be afforded many of the rights we all do, except that of marriage and the things that come with that.

That's not supporting god's plan. That's subverting it. Follow his lead and give your fellow citizens the all important free will to decide for themselves that God was so insistent we have.

I'm all for your expression of the free will God has given all of mankind, the problem here is you do not understand what that free will is. Let me explain, the free will God affords us is to choose between Him and ourselves as I said above and when I choose to accept Christ I have chosen to accept His righteousness and to support it even if it cost me this life. If you choose not to accept Christ, then you have rejected God's righteousness and will live as you want to and support what you see as right. Now here's the thing about this free will we have, when we make our choice for or against God all bets are off on choosing, there will be a punishment for choosing wrong no matter if you choose God or not. In other words your and my free will ends at our choice between God or ourselves. You want to twist God's love around to suit your choice of rejecting Him, it does not hold water with God.