RE: Classic
June 7, 2013 at 10:26 pm
(This post was last modified: June 7, 2013 at 10:45 pm by Rahul.)
(June 7, 2013 at 4:09 pm)Godschild Wrote: Why shouldn't women take responsibility for their bodies before hand, condoms would eliminate many abortions, abortions are harder on a women's body than prevention. It only seems reasonable doesn't, what woman doesn't know this, and this would also help in slowing down STD's. So until women can show responsibility for their bodies and quit killing innocent life, I'll be complaining. Yes I would rather see women and men practice abstinence according to God's will and if they did that too would be a choice.
Oh, like women are never raped by strangers? Little girls are never raped by male family members, male friends of the family, or male authority figures?
Whatever dude. In predominately catholic countries where they have illegalized abortion it's led to a higher death rate among pregnant women.
Why? Because they place huge burdens on the doctors that they are not allowed to perform an abortion except under very strict and narrow reasons. The problem is that the doctors are so scared to be accused of performing an "illegal and unecessary" abortion and have their entire careers utterly destroyed, and face jail time, that they delay performing an abortion.
Even if it's an ectopic pregnancy, the woman has internal bleeding, the need to perform surgery is dire, needed without delay, that women die.
They fucking die. This is happening NOW in certain countries. It just happened to a woman in Ireland a month or two ago. It happens in a couple countries in South America on a regular basis.
But let's forget the legitimate practioners.
Back alley abortions are a major cause of death, infections, all kinds of horrible injuries to women that are forced to seek unofficial abortion practioners. It happened in America too back when abortion was illegal.
(June 7, 2013 at 4:09 pm)Godschild Wrote: Since I do not see this as a normal life even before I became a Christian, I still do not think homosexuals should have the right to marry, it's not natural and adds nothing to a society.
Here's the difference between you theists and us atheists. I don't agree with you, ok, whatever. You don't agree with me you pass legislation illegalizing it.
That's the PROBLEM.
You don't agree with gays getting married. Don't marry another member of your own gender. It's not your business to dictate to other people what they should do with THEIR life as long as they are not harming other people.
Two grown, consenting men want to get married. You don't agree with it. Fine. Don't go to their wedding.
But to illegalize it? How would you like gays dictating to YOU through law how you can live your life?
That's the PROBLEM.
(June 7, 2013 at 4:09 pm)Godschild Wrote: Abortion is murder and homosexuality is not part of the natural order.
Once again, not everyone agrees with you. Including biological scientists. Until the higher brain functions kick on in the later part of pregnancy, it aint' a human.
If you were in a car wreck and lost all your higher brain functions, YOU are gone. Your body might still be breathing but your personality, your memories, your habits, it's all GONE. Everything that made you, you is gone. You aren't there any more. It's just a breathing corpse.
You don't agree with this logic? That's fine. I am magnanimous enough to allow you to disagree and NOT take away your rights to do what you think is right.
Can the rest of us have the same courtesy from you?
(June 7, 2013 at 4:09 pm)Godschild Wrote: God did not have to think it was important, in His omniscience He knew it was the only way to express real love.
First prove he exists. Then prove why he did what he did. Till then, whatever. You have as much proof as a Muslim. None.
(June 7, 2013 at 4:09 pm)Godschild Wrote: The free will given us by God is about choosing between Him and ourselves, then the righteousness of God will either be a part of us or it want, if not then one may choose abortion. So you see it's not about choosing to do right and wrong, God showed that through the Israelites. It's about choosing to live in a relationship with Him and allowing His righteousness to be a part of our lives. Christians do not always do that and sometimes screw up royally. When we do we repent and try and return to a living relationship with Him.
Dude, I grew up in church. My grandpa was a deacon. My mom has played Church piano for 50 years. I went every Sunday morning, evening, and Wednesday evening. I've had enough sermons.
(June 7, 2013 at 4:09 pm)Godschild Wrote: God calls that type of relationship an abomination, how else should one who wants to live in a relationship with God disagree with His omniscient being. God says it is an unnatural relationship, He being the creator should know this correct? Do not misunderstand me I believe homosexuals should be afforded many of the rights we all do, except that of marriage and the things that come with that.
Once again. Prove he exists first and foremost. Until you get that bare minimum of a starting point you're just babbling made up crap.
Thor calls you a turd. He says you must drink your own urine or you will not be worthy to join him in the clouds to hurl lightning bolts alongside of him.
Hey, we have the exact same level of legitimacy!
Or do you want me to type it up, print it out, bind it, make a couple thousand copies, start a cult, raise some kids to believe it, and wait around for a couple centuries until my cult of Thor has a larger population than your cult of Yahweh?
Because that's pretty much how your cult of Yahweh started. Just some dudes scribbled it down, passed it around, taught it to their kids, and let the years roll by. "I believe it because mommy and daddy believe it and taught me about it! I'm going to do the same things to my kids!"