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(June 7, 2013 at 4:09 pm)Godschild Wrote:


Ryan Wrote:Why is it not wrong when God causes miscarriages?

He doesn't, what makes you think He does, Satan might.

GC Wrote:Since I do not see this as a normal life even before I became a Christian, I still do not think homosexuals should have the right to marry, it's not natural and adds nothing to a society.

Abortion is murder and homosexuality is not part of the natural order.

Ryan Wrote:The number of species which practice homosexual behavior is much larger than the number of species which practice religion. Therefore, religion is a worse evil than homosexuality.

Man is the only one who practices homosexual behavior. Now that last sentence of your's is that what you call logical?

GC Wrote:God did not have to think it was important, in His omniscience He knew it was the only way to express real love.

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Ryan Wrote:I know you're too far gone to be phased by the truth, but there it is, nonetheless.

None of that is true as stated it was used out of context, just another ploy by those who hate God.

GC Wrote:


Ryan Wrote:Demanding that a person ignore their own wants and desires and give them all their attention is not the foundation of a relationship based upon love. That's obsessive, controlling, frightening behavior, and all the more so when refusing that relationship means being punished.

I see you're not married. God does not ask us to give up all our wants and desire, actually He says He will help us to attain those that are not sinful or that may be bad for us. He will protect us from harmful desires if we will only listen. As far as refusing the relationship goes well, it means you desire to live in your sinful state and that sin is what one is punished for.

Ryan Wrote:If God really gave humans free will, it would be the freedom to refuse his love without penalty. If God really loved people, he would not place so many ridiculous conditions upon it.

As I explained above one is punished for unforgiven sin, you reuse to live in a relationship with God means you choose to live in a sinful one according to God's righteousness. You will be judged against God's righteousness. God places nothing ridiculous on us, it's just that you want what's against the righteousness of God and those things are bad for you but, you get to choose.

Ryan Wrote:The worst lies Christians tell always involve the word "love". Your God is not about love. Your God is about himself, and only himself. Only his will matters. Only his opinion is valid. You are a piece of shit and deserve nothing.

God does not poses an opinion that would go against His omniscience. God knows all that is right and all that is wrong. God is our creator and has the right to be glorified whether you want to believe it or not, it really has no bearing on this fact. You have no idea what I deserve, your hate for God and those who love Him is showing up more often now.

GC Wrote:


Ryan Wrote:God was okay with polygamy. Are you?

No and no.

GC Wrote:I'm all for your expression of the free will God has given all of mankind, the problem here is you do not understand what that free will is. Let me explain, the free will God affords us is to choose between Him and ourselves as I said above and when I choose to accept Christ I have chosen to accept His righteousness and to support it even if it cost me this life. If you choose not to accept Christ, then you have rejected God's righteousness and will live as you want to and support what you see as right. Now here's the thing about this free will we have, when we make our choice for or against God all bets are off on choosing, there will be a punishment for choosing wrong no matter if you choose God or not. In other words your and my free will ends at our choice between God or ourselves. You want to twist God's love around to suit your choice of rejecting Him, it does not hold water with God.

Ryan Wrote:You want to twist God's obsessive, murderous jealousy so that it resembles love.

I twist nothing about God's love, your hate for God blinds you to the truth.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Classic - by Rahul - June 6, 2013 at 9:24 am
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