(June 15, 2013 at 12:03 am)Tartarus Sauce Wrote:(June 14, 2013 at 11:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: Hell was created for Satan and his followers before man sinned. If man had not sinned then hell would be of no consequence for him but, man has and will continue to, so hell is an actual reality for man. God created man without sin man chose to disregard his perfect state and fell into a sinful state.
....and God, being the supposed omnipotent son of a bitch he is, passively allowed his creations to delve into sin. Oh wait, did I say passively allowed? He ENCOURAGED by placing the fucking tree smack dab in the middle of the garden and knew they were going to eat from it.
Responsibility still ends up falling back in his lap, since nothing occurs without God's permission.
And FYI, God created satan knowing what was going to happen there as well.
Seriously, the fucker causes his own problems and then makes his creations suffer the consequences.
If you will read the Bible and study it as you read, you'll find that all this has to do with love, true love can only come from free choice, God chooses to love sinful man, who made himself sinful and God desires that man, sinful as he is, chooses to love Him. You're wrong about things happening without God's permission, fee choice is just that free of God's will. Now I do agree that much does not happen without God allowing it to, but not everything. God did not cause the problems, He did know He would have to deal with sin. Nothing is a problem for the omniscient God, not even having His Son death for our sin, love is everything to God.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
