(December 22, 2009 at 1:45 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Christians do indeed get their moral guidance from the bible Suzie ().. and aim to do good inspired by it. That is a million miles away from their belief stance or anything they might do making them 'good'.
The idea that underpins Christianity that is fully explained in the Adam and Eve story is that people are not good by default.
@TW: Indeed. We shouldn't disregard our history and lessons that can be learned there, or disregard historical wisdom without considering it. Which brings religion back into the equation.
Thats not what I got fro the Adam and Eve myth.
The things that stuck out for me.
1: God does not want you to know anything. (the crime was eating from the tree of knowledge and becoming self aware)
2: God has a tendency for over the top punishments. Cast out eternally for a bit of scrumping seems excessive to me.
3: God is stupid, I mean leaving a tree with forbidden fruit in proximity to people is just asking for trouble. So either it was a stupid thing to do or a set up.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.