(December 22, 2009 at 6:28 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:May I put forward an additional suggestion of possible biblical mishap:(December 22, 2009 at 1:45 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Christians do indeed get their moral guidance from the bible Suzie ().. and aim to do good inspired by it. That is a million miles away from their belief stance or anything they might do making them 'good'.
The idea that underpins Christianity that is fully explained in the Adam and Eve story is that people are not good by default.
@TW: Indeed. We shouldn't disregard our history and lessons that can be learned there, or disregard historical wisdom without considering it. Which brings religion back into the equation.
Thats not what I got fro the Adam and Eve myth.
The things that stuck out for me.
1: God does not want you to know anything. (the crime was eating from the tree of knowledge and becoming self aware)
2: God has a tendency for over the top punishments. Cast out eternally for a bit of scrumping seems excessive to me.
3: God is stupid, I mean leaving a tree with forbidden fruit in proximity to people is just asking for trouble. So either it was a stupid thing to do or a set up.
God cannot distinguish between responsibility of an alleged culprit and its offspring. Notwithstanding the utter stupidity of this, original sin has pervaded all christian thinking. It seems a strong argument for naive tribal origin of biblical account to me.
"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0