RE: Gimmah the evidence
June 22, 2013 at 10:31 am
(This post was last modified: June 22, 2013 at 10:51 am by Simon Moon.)
(June 22, 2013 at 9:13 am)enrico Wrote:downbeatplumb Wrote:Science to a large part is the opposite of intuition. Things that you may intuitively think are right are tested by science and are most often proved wrong.
Oh, i did not know that PHYSICAL science can test INTUITIONAL science.
I mean how can something material can test something that is not material?
Whhhhhhhhaaaahh, i propose you for a nobel prize.
He said nothing about testing 'intuitive science' (I cringed even typing that meaningless phrase). He stated that scientists often get intuitions about something they are studying, but there is no way to know if the intuition is correct without testing it. Testing the specific thing they intuited, not intuition itself.
But, as soon as you claim that intuition's effects manifest some way in the physical universe, your claim becomes testable. That's the way reality works.
You make all these claims, then when we insist on evidence for them, you tack on another claim about their untestability. How convenient...
Enrico Wrote:As i already said in previous post not only is a science but is the older science ever as it was taught 7000 years ago by Shiva.
But it can't be demonstrated to be true.
Quote:Sorry to disappoint you but the word science come from the latin and it means KNOWLEDGE, just about any knowledge and therefore is not confined to universal knowledge or the knowledge of your choosing.
Science (from Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge") is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe. In an older and closely related meaning, "science" also refers to a body of knowledge itself, of the type that can be rationally explained and reliably applied.
As soon as you are able to accomplish the above statements in bold regarding your claim of 'intuitive science', you may have something. Until then, you're pretty much talking out of your ass.
Quote:What was true yesterday today is no longer valid and what is valid today tomorrow will end up in the rubbish bin of history because new evidence come up that disproves the old theory.
Nope. The truth does not change. What changes is human understanding.
And what changes human understanding? Demonstrable evidence and reasoned argument, neither of which you seem to be able to produce with regards to 'intuitive science' (Oh, I cringed again).
Quote:On the other hand the entity behind the time and space never change that is why i really prefer the latter
And of course you can support your claim that an entity exists that is 'behind time and space', right...
Quote:Open the tv and see what happen in Turkey and Brazil at the moment.
Better yet, see what is happening in China right now. Capitalism is going strong there. And they have a population 5 times the size of Brazil and Turkey combined.
Quote:The canary syndrome is very hard to give up.
The poor canary is so used to live in a cage that can not comprehend anymore how it is possible to live outside a cage
As soon as you can demonstrate that 'outside of the cage' exists, get back to us.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
