RE: "I'll pray for you."
June 24, 2013 at 2:36 pm
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2013 at 2:50 pm by fr0d0.)
(June 24, 2013 at 12:58 pm)Stimbo Wrote: That's the whole point (it also shows the importance of having a control, by the way). When the supposed phenomenon you are attempting to measure has more than one causative agency, how can you possibly ascribe it to a single one as you had been doing? Further, if the results are indistinguishable from chance alone, what does that tell you? Be honest now.
You have no way of knowing which was the cause. So you cannot conclude that one isn't. If you could tell which were the supernatural effect, that effect wouldn't be supernatural now would it?
(June 24, 2013 at 2:26 pm)Zarith Wrote:(June 24, 2013 at 1:37 am)fr0d0 Wrote: You have got to be kidding me! Those dictionary definitions back up exactly what I'm saying.No, and I already explained why.
Your explanations we're absurd given the definitions that you quoted, which completely backed up my points. Go read yourself again.
(June 24, 2013 at 2:26 pm)Zarith Wrote:(June 24, 2013 at 1:37 am)fr0d0 Wrote: And the nature of God is well known. I could justifiably assume you should be aquatinted with that. If you're meaning bare as in unproven naturally, then that would be absurd of course.Every one of you believers has your own happy-horseshit version of the fairy tale, and your own particular regimen of cherry-picking. I can't be bothered or expected to keep track.
Really? Your excuse for ignorance is poor.
(June 24, 2013 at 2:26 pm)Zarith Wrote: As for the transfiguration, it seems we are in agreement that the bible's account of that is something between tall tale and complete fiction, so there's nothing further to be said there.
You are completely incorrect once again. Whilst at the same time agreeing that your point is conceded. Nice.
(June 24, 2013 at 2:26 pm)Zarith Wrote:(June 24, 2013 at 1:37 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I believe I did answer the question, but let me say it again: We have reason to believe that prayer is answered if we first believe that what the bible says is true.LOL!
You don't understand. That much we gathered.
Cheap point, target missed.
(June 24, 2013 at 2:33 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Nothing you have quoted shows(or even hints at) that you have the right to claim that all prayers are answered consistently. What you've posted are refutations of the other side's claims, which have you attacked as illogical all while failing to recognize that your claims have the exact same shortcomings.
The argument is strong and your failure to confront it telling.
Once more we are caught in a middle ground where what separates us is our beliefs. Your lack and my owned. Yet is you who claim to be the one who is correct. And I'm supposed to prove to you something I tell you is a matter of belief.
Tell me again. Which one of us is being dishonest here?
