(June 25, 2013 at 2:24 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(June 24, 2013 at 7:55 pm)Stimbo Wrote: And this is where I came in, with the same point I posed to you in the form of my little experiment.
You came in dressed as a clown and squeezing your hooter.
If that was all that prayer entailed your objection might hold. Avoiding the problem isn't very scientific, yet here are you guys happy to ignore the details to prove a point.
While I am, of course, always glad to entertain, I fear that was a mirror you saw instead of me. I raised no particular objections, merely proposed a mechanism whereby traditional claims for the efficacy of prayer such as you espouse might be put to an objective test. But please, do tell us again of this avoidance of the problem and which party is demonstrating it - I'm sure we could all benefit from your insight. If nothing else we can appreciate the humour.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'