(June 27, 2013 at 8:41 am)enrico Wrote:(June 25, 2013 at 12:27 pm)whateverist Wrote: Did it ever occur to you that the word "union", its definition and the thing itself may not be precisely the same thing? It is all too common for we humans to squeeze their experience through the filter of language and then inject that understanding back out into the world they think they experience. I'm just wondering if calling it "union" may not be unnecessarily constraining your understanding of yoga. I'll stop there so you can decide if this means anything to you at all. (There is always more.)
You can give the meaning that you like to this word.
As far as i am concern the meaning of the word UNION within yoga means to merge into the cosmic consciousness and become one with it.
Like a drop of water that when reach and merge in the ocean become one with it. It become the ocean itself.
Capish!
Well yes, one can give whatever meaning they like to words. The metaphor you use to understand yoga is nice, richly suggestive in so many rich ways. (Though whether all of them are useful remains to be seen.) But can we leave aside yoga as the topic of discussion?
Let us say you know more about yoga than I do. I'll concede the tenets of yoga to be whatever you say they are. So we need have no more factual arguments about what yoga does or does't say about a topic. Please do draw from your knowledge of yoga in our discussion. All I ask is that you refrain from using the orthodoxy of yogic dogma to justify any point. Surely your understanding of yoga should give you such an advantage that you would not need to cite it as an authority. Whatever wisdom it bestows should be enough to allow you to hold your own on other topics directly with someone who lacks that knowledge.
(June 27, 2013 at 8:41 am)enrico Wrote: Is your idea of union the same as mine?
If so then you can say that this is a union of thoughts.
Perhaps but I would need to know more. But before we begin, do you accept my terms? You may draw on yoga as you please, you just will not cite it authoritatively. I in turn will refrain from arguing with you what yoga is or should be about. Deal?
