REPTILIAN RULERS EXPOSED

[Purple Rabbit]

You belief you have no evidence. Is that belief in ignorance? A yet 'higher' form of Argumentum ad Ignorantiam?

I mean I know of no evidence. Any disbelief I have is because I know of no evidence. Just as you no of no evidence of God. That has got nothing to do with the Argument From Ignorance as I've said to you many times before. Sorry but you appear to not understand what it is...

The Argument from Ignorance would be if I claimed that a belief was only true because it it hasn't been proven false or only false because it hasn't been proven true.

To claim that I am arguing from ignorance for not holding a belief because I know of no evidence is kind of silly to say the least IMO.

Well, I really was responding to your phrasing in the form (A) "I believe I have no evidence for p" instead of (B) "I have no evidence for p". The accompaning emoticon means I was teasing you a little with a reference to our earlier discussion.

If you are trying to emphasize your human infallibilty with A, it does not stop there.
For if you do not know anything absolute, than you don't even know absolutely if you are believing you have no evidence. A becomes "I believe that I believe I have no evidence for p" and everybody can see there's infinite regress from there on.

So I think we're in agremeant on the appeal to ignorance, though my preferred phrasing of it reads as follows:

An appeal to ignorance is made when is said (1A) "There is no evidence for p, therefore, not-p" or (2A) "There is no evidence against p, therefore, p".

I think the word "only" in your version has some possible ambiguity to it.

Unambiguity of meaning of the word god is precisely what makes the sentence "god exists" an inadequate proposition.

I presume you meant ambiguity?

Yes.

Well I don't consider it that vague a term. I understand it to mostly mean 'deity', often the abrahamic one...

You appear to be interested in 'Spiritual Enlightenment' somewhat and IMO the world 'Spiritual' is the most ambiguous word in the English language. It can mean anything the person wants it to mean 'to them', and at least "God" often means a supernatural creator/being or 'deity'.

That is why the word 'Spiritual' is my least favourite word in the English language. I can't fucking stand that word I think it sucks... but others may not agree with me. Just as I disagree with people who think the word "God" is particularly ambiguous......

Theists often make it am ambiguous word with their metaphorical bullshit talk... but I think it very often means 'deity' whereas 'Spiritual', as I said, in my experience seems to be able to mean absolutely fucking anything the 'spiritual person' interested in 'spirituality' wants it to.

Spiritual can mean spiritual like related to 'spirits', or it can be completely unrelated to that since you can get it in a secular sense of 'spiritual atheists'... it can mean metaphorically anything the person wants it to mean. It's what it means 'to them', it seems. And then it can also mean 'spiritualism' as in those frauds who talk to the dead (or think they are!!). The paranormal bullshit...

And 'spirit' of course can even mean it as in 'fighting spirit' or "That boy has spirit" or.... alcoholic spirits such as brandy and whisky!!!

/end rant.

EvF

I'm interested in spiritual enlightenment as a cultural phenomenon that, like religion, claims absolute truth. However I I'm not a seeker of spiritual enlightenment myself, except when you use it to mean something as broad like 'understanding of the world'. Also I have argued that the word 'spiritual' (not ''spiritual enlightenment') has been since long hi-jacked by religion and mystycism and that it should be reclaimed by reason. Spiritual to me is about contemplative emotion and awareness levels arising in the brain through natural causes. And we should reclaim the term just because it's been abused by religion and mystycism as an argument for the supernatural, as an argument that naturalism does not address certain aspects of existence.

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I have yet to see anyone describe any practical or observable aspect of "spiritual health" that doesn't entirely steal from the definitions of mental and emotional well-being - In fact i would go as far as to say that the word "Spirituality" is an entirely unnecessary re-branding of already existing concepts and serves no purpose other than to muddle up the understanding of what it means to be 'at peace'.

I agree, although 'at peace' might not be the phrasing I would use for myself.