RE: Government is Irrational.
June 29, 2013 at 8:42 pm
(This post was last modified: June 29, 2013 at 8:45 pm by Koolay.)
(June 29, 2013 at 8:37 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(June 29, 2013 at 8:10 pm)Koolay Wrote: Pretty simple, society organising without the initiation of force or violence.
Ummmm. . . that's a democratic government.
I think your thesis is flawed, because you are judging the actions of the government on 1) what's best for the average Joe; 2) what the politicians in the government SAY they are attempting to achieve.
Epic logic fail, IMO. The truth is that the government are acting rationally as selfish human beings, with their goals being wealth, power, and some kind of permanent legacy (i.e. they get their names in lots of books). Many of them are succeeding wildly, beyond their education, their class, and their ability to contribute to the society.
(It's not my thesis, it's just how it is.)
No, I am judging the government based on the non aggression principle and universally preferred behaviour, nothing to do with me.
(June 29, 2013 at 8:41 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote:(June 29, 2013 at 8:38 pm)Koolay Wrote: No, it can be decided upon private citizens. If likely no one wants to do business with a murderer, it won't take long before he or she runs out of resources, at which point they can pay amends via a private court or attempt to steal to get resources, at which point it wouldn't take long before he is killed by other people's self defence.Oh ok, so you're saying violence initiated by individuals is ok, but if the government jails this person up and save us from the trouble of having to kill him ourselves, that would be not ok?
If someone initiates violence upon you or your property, you are within right to use violence to stop that action and ensure safety of people and property. There is a clear difference between initiating violence and violence for defence.