(June 29, 2013 at 10:32 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: The country i live in right now doesn't allow people to vote on who gets to go to jail. Let alone cheer for it.
However in YOUR society, if people wanted me in jail and cheered for it, they can just hire people to throw me in one.
Really? which country? I want to go there. From everything I have experienced of democracy is basically a majority of people outsourcing violence to guys in blue costume against minorities.
'My' society is not correct. It is the only society, as definition of society is a voluntary gathering of people, not people held in by imaginary lines and violence.
(June 29, 2013 at 10:34 pm)Tartarus Sauce Wrote:(June 29, 2013 at 10:17 pm)Koolay Wrote: If having an entity exempt from rules and morality that claims to be in society's best interest overseeing society is a principle for you, who will oversee the overseers?
I'm pessimistic of humanity's capacity to be able to run large-scale societies without falling to the traps of discriminatory group division and corruption of power, government or not.
Hence why I said we should break off and form mini-socities on islands.....not that such a thing would realistically happen of course.
How was your childhood?
(June 29, 2013 at 11:27 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: I do actually agree that a society can exist and function without a government. Without someone in charge, however, no. Even a society without a government and without someone in charge can theoretically work. The problem with our society is that people are not comfortable with doing anything unless they gain something from doing it. Eliminate the idea that someone must trade something for something else and that the only way to trade is through earning a wage, then society can understand that doing things for the betterment of society is more for unity rather than proving one is better than another.
Everything should be free. Plain and simple. Realistically, it could work. In our society, forget it. In a perfect society, perfect being the operative word, people would willingly work and provide not just for themselves. They would provide for the betterment of the community, the entire world.
Not really sure what your argument is? This isn't really the place to talk about our random fantasies.