Government is Irrational.

[Koolay]

The problem with both is that they rely on people being inherently good, which they are not.

Where's your reason and evidence?

Further, your claim that to punish murderers all we have to do is not give them goods or services is bogus. If we live in a purely free society as you wish, then what would stop me if I choose to sell to murderers?

No, I do not believe in punishment. Social isolation and defence stops evil.

If you openly do business with murderers, I wont want to use your goods and services. As would many others. So you would lose money by tending to someone evil. Money is the best influence on human behaviour as you said. And few people will want to use your goods and services if you are found to help murderers, rapists and thieves. HSBC bank is a good example of this who have been exposed to doing deals with drug launderers and terrorists. And their choices lost them more money and customers in the long term.

Thank you, I appreciate that. However, your post did not state that it was 9/10, it actually implied that all murderers come from abuse and neglect. Which is, I'm afraid, not true...

You insinuate that it is conclusive that murderers come exclusively from histories of abuse and neglect... This is false.

http://www.nc-cm.org/article213.htm

A large distinction that separates serial killers from other murderers are their motives to kill. Normally homicides are committed due to disputes that range from family affairs, gang violence, financial difficulties, and disputes between lovers and between friends. "A psychokiller, I should make clear, is not a regular murderer. A murderer has a vendetta, a nice specific personal thing against his victim" (Corin 188). Unlike that of a normal homicide, serial killers are only driven by instinct and a desire to kill. Due to these sexual desires and the need to fulfill their arousing fantasies it often drives these individual to murder those who are complete strangers. Though serial killers only make up for one percent murderers nearly a dozen account for one hundred to two hundred murders annually

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Not to say that the aftermath of serial killers is trivial but the real controversy among theorists lies on how and why serial killers take the step from fantasy to reality. We are all made up of tiny individual genes that make up our personality traits defining who and what we are. Many believe that murderers do not grow into the shell of a killer but have predetermined genes that make up the chemical balance of our brain, body, thoughts, ideas, and most importantly actions. "Generally speaking biological factors vis-à-vis the causes of behavior can be defined as those 'processes and conditions that typically are considered as belonging to or characteristic of the organism'" (Jeffrey 78). As Lucy Corin in Everyday Psycho Killers presents, violence and death is apart of whom we are as humans and shows that violence is most prevalent when we are in our youth. Corin relates to the nature of violence in children and desires that we have whether good or bad in our everyday lives. "One girl had grabbed another girl by the front of the shirt through to her bra and flung her against the beam. The girl lay crumpled on the locker room floor, her head bleeding, her eyes saying more and the girl who had flung her stood over the body, hands on hips, with enormous thighs" (Corin 16).

The idea that evil is pre-determined is not true.

It has been well established that you can only have an epigenetic disposition to violent behaviour more than others. But it is only triggered after traumatic experiences. If you don't have the trauma / abuse, then it's not a concern.

Like you could have a family history and disposition to heart disease, but if you exercise regularly and eat low fat then you don't have anything to worry about.