Gimmah the evidence

[Little Rik]

I'm afraid I've lost my train of thought on this thread. I guess my question for you enrico is whether you first experienced what union means in the context of yoga while doing yoga, or, if you first had been conditioned to understand it in a certain way. If you can honestly say you were practicing yoga first with out instruction in what to expect or how to interpret it, then I'd be more interested to hear what you have to say. But I suspect you were instructed quite explicitly on what to expect and how to interpret that. Do you see why the second scenario would be more questionable for those of us not looking to buy into any spiel?

It was and still is all about attraction which as i discussed in the previous post is also a form of torture.
Torture does not necessary means pain that can be associated with masochism.
You may not agree but we are ALL attracted by him (God) and if we do not move toward him we feel pain (mental torture).
That is why i try to understand from you what it means to come here in this forum and try to learn new things from other people.
What philosophy means to you?
There are two way to go ahead.
One is consciously like admitting that you see a goal to reach (like me) the other is going ahead without caring whether there is a goal or not (like you).
You are here in this forum, you care about your health and your family, you would like to see a better world you try to learn more and more and so on.
This is going ahead in your own way in your own path and this lead you to enter higher form of consciousness that eventually will lead to the summit of everything. This way is a lot longer and more hard.
Now you may not feel a connection between you and human emancipation but as the time goes by and you advance then you will understand better what i am talking about.
Coming back to your question in the past when all started i realize that the best way to go ahead was to let go my mental if and buts and surely i will find the solution.
It is said that when the ...........the student is ready the master appears.
That is exactly what happen. The master was waiting for me.
Now any master would tell you........if you do this or that then you will achieve this or that.
This is how the system works.
It is like when you want to become a doctor, you got to do this or that according to your teacher instruction.
This is the best way or you can gain the knowledge a bit at the time but it will takes a lot longer just as you do in your life regarding reaching the summit of human emancipation.
In other words before i started yoga i did feel unconsciously that something in my life was missing and that was the union with the infinity but that become more clear as i was initiated into tantric yoga.