From atheism to tentative agnosticism

[The Grand Nudger]

Yes, if atheism is true that is what I am doing. That's the point. Those external instructions don't really exist if atheism is true, it is just a trick my mind is playing on me.

Meh, even if it isn't it's still likely that you're projecting.

For if atheism is true how on earth can there exist external instructions with which we automatically have reason to comply? It isn't possible.

If it weren't, we'd still be at a loss to explain this - supposing we were at a loss to explain this, which we aren't.

There appear to be such things. Humans have argued about their content for millennia. But such debates would be like debates over whether father Christmas beats his wife. Father Christmas doesn't exist, so both sides are fundamentally mistaken.

Of course father christmas doesn't beat his wife, and of course he exists.

Simiarly, if atheism is true morality doesn't exist. So all normative moral claims are false.

Well that's out of the blue, huh? Morality doesn;t need to be argued into existence. It's existence is a simple observation (unlike a god). Regardless of whether or not there is a god there is morality. Tell you what though, ask your god about this one and get back to me with what he says?