RE: Government is Irrational.
July 2, 2013 at 7:51 pm
(This post was last modified: July 2, 2013 at 8:01 pm by bennyboy.)
(July 2, 2013 at 2:23 pm)Koolay Wrote: The definition of a society is a voluntary group of people.Okay dude, look. If you are going to use definitions, be aware that other people have access to Google, too. Among the many definitions of that word, you've carefully selected the only one that supports your position.
" a voluntary association of individuals for common ends; especially : an organized group working together or periodically meeting because of common interests, beliefs, or profession"
Not what a government is. Government is as much part of society as a group of hostages are to the robbers.
You are incorrect. Stop deceiving people.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/society
Quote:Again, this is a selfish view. Government isn't all about you. It's about reconciling the needs of many people. Your argument also a strawman/red herring-- I didn't say you need government to do those things; I said that insofar as you follow the rules of society, you ARE an implicit party to the social contract.(July 1, 2013 at 9:03 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Every time you stop at a red light, or walk past a jewelry store without smashing a display case and taking some gold, or allow a person to walk away who has insulted you, you are showing that you accept the terms, and are willing to abide by them.
Nothing to do with the government, I do that without threat of punishment. It's like a religious person saying to someone 'But if you don't have a religion, how would you have morals?'. You don't need punishment to follow a principled and peaceful life.
You are arguing the wrong points. You are arguing that you aren't part of the social contract, while you clearly are-- because you don't understand what the word means. What you SHOULD be arguing is whether the current government provides a net benefit-- and if it does not, how to go about eliminating or replacing it. But none of this has anything to do with anarchy, which fails as soon as you bring more than about 3 people into social contact.