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Uh oh! Mormonism!
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RE: Uh oh! Mormonism!
(July 3, 2013 at 1:50 pm)Regens Küchl Wrote: ...but learning from history of catholic middle age europa and even from the situation of todays muhammadan ruled countries.
In the middle age there was practically every european a catholic by force of catholic rule. No mission in europe necessary. What now did the ruling church do [to suppress] the all catholic world even more? Inquisition, witch hunt, torture and robbing of their wealth of s u s p e c t s who were often wrongly accused of straying from the catholic path.

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I cannot believe that any abrahamitic sect who would get to rule the world would be different.
And todays LDS is openly striving to get in line with the big churches. Sadly they move farther and farther from the teachings of Joseph smith, who was at least amusing, interesting and lovable ( I read the Fawn Brodie biographie).

Oh jeez, I had something good for you, but my work computer lost its internet connection.

To summarize what I wrote before I lost it all:
You're right that the Mormon Church wants to be on par with the other big churches. As the Mormon Church modernizes itself, it will keep moving away from its fundamental ideals.

I'm actually okay with this. As I don't believe it will ever rule the entire world, a benign (yet big) Mormon Church could do more good than its earlier incarnations. (Look up Blood Atonement, Mountain Meadows Massacre, and early Temple Endowment ceremonies, for earlier examples that it has gone away from.)

As for the missionary force going away, I think since missionary work is doctrinal, actual missionaries will never cease to exist. Even if everyone was Mormon, I'm sure they'd find something to go on a mission about.

(July 3, 2013 at 1:50 pm)Regens Küchl Wrote:
(July 3, 2013 at 10:24 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Let me just say this: There is no Mormon Conspiracy. They're just a cult.
Yes. But it is interesting that a cult with a private state (Utah) strives to send his members into leadership posts in the whole USA.
But it is their natural way looking at mormons. No secret conspiracy, but [their] Prophets old plan of a world theocracy.

That Mitt Romney personally is member of the mormon "Inquisition tribunal" and personally excommunicated many mormons I read in a newspaper. This is wrong you say ?

Utah isn't a private state. If I owned half of the land in Massachusetts, would the state be private, or is it still part of the United States? Plus, only 60% of Utah is Mormon, last I checked.

Still, they do try to get their members in world leadership positions, as you stated. To see how that worked out for them, check out the Reed/Smoot cases. Their move for power was negligible, and actually during that time Polygamy was put on trial, so the LDS senator was already under much scrutiny because of it. (Gee Whiz factoid: Joseph Smith once ran for president of the US.)

I don't know about any Inquisitional Tribunal. If you mean that Mitt Romney was a Stake President that was very strict when ex-communicating members, then yes, you're right. This "Tribunal" though sounds made up. If any such thing existed, Mormonism would out it as a "Secret Combination" (a small Book of Mormon reference), and Mitt Romney himself would be ex-comminucated.
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Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Bad Writer - June 26, 2013 at 12:08 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by TaraJo - June 26, 2013 at 12:14 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Dragonetti - June 26, 2013 at 12:16 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by pineapplebunnybounce - June 26, 2013 at 12:16 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Bad Writer - June 26, 2013 at 12:30 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Minimalist - June 26, 2013 at 12:19 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Bad Writer - June 26, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Polaris - June 29, 2013 at 4:04 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Bad Writer - June 29, 2013 at 8:09 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by _xenu_ - July 2, 2013 at 8:27 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Doubting Thomas - June 26, 2013 at 12:26 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Dragonetti - June 26, 2013 at 12:27 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Cato - June 26, 2013 at 12:48 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Bad Writer - June 26, 2013 at 1:31 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by paulpablo - June 29, 2013 at 4:02 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by pineapplebunnybounce - June 26, 2013 at 12:56 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Minimalist - June 26, 2013 at 1:00 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Cato - June 26, 2013 at 1:18 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Whateverist - July 5, 2013 at 1:02 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Regens Küchl - July 5, 2013 at 2:02 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Tonus - July 5, 2013 at 2:19 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Regens Küchl - June 29, 2013 at 2:23 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Bad Writer - June 29, 2013 at 2:55 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Minimalist - June 29, 2013 at 2:46 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Minimalist - June 29, 2013 at 3:00 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Minimalist - June 29, 2013 at 5:26 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Regens Küchl - June 30, 2013 at 12:16 am
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Bad Writer - June 30, 2013 at 2:55 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Minimalist - June 30, 2013 at 12:59 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Regens Küchl - July 2, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Bad Writer - July 2, 2013 at 7:56 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by simplexity - July 2, 2013 at 4:07 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Minimalist - July 2, 2013 at 4:44 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Minimalist - July 2, 2013 at 8:53 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Polaris - July 2, 2013 at 9:15 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Minimalist - July 2, 2013 at 9:46 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Regens Küchl - July 3, 2013 at 12:31 am
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Bad Writer - July 3, 2013 at 10:24 am
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Regens Küchl - July 3, 2013 at 1:50 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Bad Writer - July 3, 2013 at 6:18 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Clueless Morgan - July 3, 2013 at 11:55 am
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Bad Writer - July 3, 2013 at 12:25 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Clueless Morgan - August 5, 2013 at 11:15 am
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Bad Writer - August 5, 2013 at 1:08 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Regens Küchl - July 4, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Bad Writer - July 4, 2013 at 7:18 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Regens Küchl - July 5, 2013 at 12:17 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Bad Writer - July 5, 2013 at 2:28 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Regens Küchl - July 6, 2013 at 3:05 am
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Regens Küchl - July 12, 2013 at 3:46 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by popeyespappy - August 5, 2013 at 11:41 am
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Bad Writer - July 12, 2013 at 4:36 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Minimalist - August 5, 2013 at 1:45 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Bad Writer - August 5, 2013 at 2:27 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Clueless Morgan - August 5, 2013 at 8:15 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Bad Writer - August 5, 2013 at 8:20 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by fr0d0 - August 5, 2013 at 4:51 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Bad Writer - August 5, 2013 at 5:04 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by fr0d0 - August 5, 2013 at 7:14 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Bad Writer - August 5, 2013 at 7:43 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Minimalist - August 5, 2013 at 5:26 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Lucanus - August 5, 2013 at 5:39 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Minimalist - August 5, 2013 at 7:57 pm
RE: Uh oh! Mormonism! - by Minimalist - August 5, 2013 at 8:17 pm

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