RE: Determinism Is Self Defeating
July 4, 2013 at 7:18 pm
(This post was last modified: July 4, 2013 at 7:19 pm by Koolay.)
(July 4, 2013 at 7:14 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:(July 4, 2013 at 6:58 pm)Koolay Wrote: No... where is the reason and evidence? you can't just say something is like that in what is supposed to be a debate.
What? Where is your evidence that you need reason and evidence? Where is your evidence that this is a debate?
My evidence is simple, by the sheer fact that people are trying to convince me that determinism is true is testament to the fact that they themselves accept that I have choices. They do the argument for me.
(July 4, 2013 at 7:16 pm)BrotherNeto Wrote:(July 4, 2013 at 7:12 pm)Koolay Wrote: Because that rock has no free will, but you can easily choose to avoid being hit by the rock. The rock can't choose to move another direction or not fall.The fact that you have the kind of free will you are talking about is a delusion. How does the thought to not move out of the way come into your mind. It just pops into existence, from where? From deterministic mechanism of your mind. Whether you choose it or not is an effect.
Do you have a personal struggle with responsibility and choices?
The only freedom, is freedom from illusion.
