Government is Irrational.

[Koolay]

And if you like Government, I recommend you move to North Korea.

And if you don't like Government, I recommend you move to Antarctica. I hear the land is cheap, and there isn't much in the way of government to inhibit your utopia building.

The utopia of the non initiation of violence...

As opposed to the non utopia of a group of people initiating violence upon others to make the world a better place?

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Those countries are not free from the initiation of violence. I made it very clear, the initiation of violence is wrong, the costume of your masters are irrelevant.

And if you like Government, I recommend you move to North Korea.

As several people on this thread have pointed out, no society exists without the initiation of violence. Even your pretend Loonatarian utopia would have it.

If you are going to insult me then this conversation is over.