(July 6, 2013 at 8:50 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Human beings are douchebags by nature, and we need a mechanism by which to limit that nature.
I don't agree with that. I think that human beings, by-and-large, are willing to cooperate and work towards common goals in an organized manner. But I think that this only works well in small communities where everyone in the group knows one another and shunning an uncooperative person is very effective at protecting the group. In large societies where you can't know everyone (which is to say, communities where the group is larger than 150-200 people) trust breaks down and the small number of people who really are douchebags can do considerable harm. Thus, we turn to the rule of law and to systems for protecting the group from the few who would harm it.
Which is the problem that I see with Koolay's vision of the future. Yes, we can raise new generations of children to be more considerate and less prone to "initiating violence." But even if we manage to train the large majority of them, you need only a relative few to cause significant harm to society. Especially a society like the global community today, which is so interconnected and interdependent.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould