Government is Irrational.

[Koolay]

A large premise in the reason people have governments in the first place is that they believe (for the most part, rightly) that the system will safeguard the freedoms they (we) deem most important by restricting those we do not.

Can you give an example of this?

Because USA has hundreds of thousands of rules and regulations, the average citizen commits 5 crimes a day.

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Definition of Stealing:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/stealing

Libertarians... really not my favourite kind of people. There's this in-built expectation that they owe society nothing. We are social animals. That isn't just a glib catch-all phrase, either. It is an evolutionary path that we can't escape.

The cost of living in society (and the very very many benefits that result) is that you abide by the simplest of rules... and pay your fair way. Taxation isn't theft, it is a social construct that you're free to exit at any point. Even if you were to live in a cave, you would still be indebted to society that your cave is a very safe place to live in. I mean, would you sooner live in a cave in the USA, or a cave in Afghanistan?

You are a social animal. Stop bitching about the minimal cost of that arrangement, while benefiting from everything that you gain.

Well if your only 'argument' is saying shut up and deal with it. Then I won't pretend that this is a rational conversation.