RE: Determinism Is Self Defeating
July 12, 2013 at 9:48 am
(This post was last modified: July 12, 2013 at 9:52 am by Koolay.)
It's really not complex guys.
Determinists fail their own test of logic. People that believe in Free Will do not.
Their next response is typically "Well, we are trying to change your mind, not because we recognise you have free will, but that we are programmed to try and change your mind" Well, that's a pretty good cop out for failing your own test of logic by creating a concept unbound by reason or evidence.
If determinism is self admittedly impossible to confirm or deny by the determinist, why even bother talking about it then? Should we have these conversations about everything we imagine but can never verify? "In another universe that we can never get to, all planets are ontop of a giant floating turtle. Discuss."
Determinists fail their own test of logic. People that believe in Free Will do not.
Their next response is typically "Well, we are trying to change your mind, not because we recognise you have free will, but that we are programmed to try and change your mind" Well, that's a pretty good cop out for failing your own test of logic by creating a concept unbound by reason or evidence.
If determinism is self admittedly impossible to confirm or deny by the determinist, why even bother talking about it then? Should we have these conversations about everything we imagine but can never verify? "In another universe that we can never get to, all planets are ontop of a giant floating turtle. Discuss."
The only freedom, is freedom from illusion.
