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Government as a Religion
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RE: Government as a Religion
(July 12, 2013 at 11:29 am)Koolay Wrote: Isn't that preferable? Surely you want people to self organise and govern without initiating violence.

If they could. But they can't.

(July 12, 2013 at 11:29 am)Koolay Wrote: Nonono. It's not that I am unhappy with the government. The government is morally and logically wrong by it's own test of logic and morality, it is an irrational entity as it tells citizens that using violence is wrong, but they can bomb kids houses half way across the world.

This has nothing to do with my preferences, it is logically and morally wrong, by the government's own test of logic and morality.

Why would I try to reform something which is evil by definition? The belief that government can be good 'if only I can reform it' is like joining the Mafia to try and change it into a peaceful and voluntary society. A predator can not be persuaded and convinced not to eat the gazelle.

That's where you are wrong. The government doesn't say using violence is wrong - it says initiating violence is wrong. Using violence in defense or reprisal is not only justified, it is right. And that is how it justifes any and all violence it commits.

Attacking foreign lands - they started it. Putting people in jail for withholding taxes - an act of violence on par with stealing, since that money rightfully belongs to the government. Selling drugs - a chemical attack on a man's nervous system compromising his volition. So, you see, it passes it own test of logic and morality.
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Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 12, 2013 at 10:28 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by LastPoet - July 12, 2013 at 10:56 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by genkaus - July 12, 2013 at 11:03 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Bad Writer - July 12, 2013 at 11:04 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 12, 2013 at 11:08 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by genkaus - July 12, 2013 at 11:18 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Bad Writer - July 12, 2013 at 11:11 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 12, 2013 at 11:13 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Bad Writer - July 12, 2013 at 11:16 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 12, 2013 at 11:29 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by genkaus - July 12, 2013 at 11:37 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Bad Writer - July 12, 2013 at 11:50 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 12, 2013 at 12:02 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Bad Writer - July 12, 2013 at 12:06 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 12, 2013 at 12:07 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by CleanShavenJesus - July 12, 2013 at 12:09 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by pocaracas - July 12, 2013 at 12:16 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Doubting Thomas - July 12, 2013 at 1:29 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 12, 2013 at 1:41 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by genkaus - July 12, 2013 at 10:35 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 12, 2013 at 1:42 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by bennyboy - July 12, 2013 at 10:21 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Bad Writer - July 12, 2013 at 2:27 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Angrboda - July 12, 2013 at 2:48 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 13, 2013 at 1:13 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by _xenu_ - July 13, 2013 at 1:34 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 13, 2013 at 2:21 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 13, 2013 at 2:20 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by LostLocke - July 13, 2013 at 3:42 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Angrboda - July 13, 2013 at 4:50 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by genkaus - July 13, 2013 at 6:02 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Angrboda - July 13, 2013 at 7:22 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by genkaus - July 13, 2013 at 8:06 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Angrboda - July 13, 2013 at 10:20 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by genkaus - July 14, 2013 at 8:15 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by LostLocke - July 14, 2013 at 8:15 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by bennyboy - July 14, 2013 at 4:25 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Minimalist - July 13, 2013 at 4:05 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 13, 2013 at 6:07 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by genkaus - July 13, 2013 at 6:18 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 14, 2013 at 5:22 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Whateverist - July 14, 2013 at 5:46 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by genkaus - July 14, 2013 at 8:04 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 14, 2013 at 5:25 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 14, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 14, 2013 at 5:35 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 14, 2013 at 5:50 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Bad Writer - July 14, 2013 at 5:44 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 14, 2013 at 5:47 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Whateverist - July 14, 2013 at 5:52 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 14, 2013 at 5:51 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 14, 2013 at 5:55 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by bennyboy - July 14, 2013 at 7:36 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Whateverist - July 15, 2013 at 1:11 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by bennyboy - July 15, 2013 at 8:22 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 14, 2013 at 5:53 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 14, 2013 at 5:56 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 14, 2013 at 6:07 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 14, 2013 at 6:09 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 19, 2013 at 6:59 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 19, 2013 at 8:08 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by cratehorus - July 19, 2013 at 8:10 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 14, 2013 at 6:15 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Bad Writer - July 14, 2013 at 7:27 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 15, 2013 at 8:30 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Bad Writer - July 15, 2013 at 9:46 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 15, 2013 at 9:47 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Whateverist - July 15, 2013 at 10:00 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Tonus - July 15, 2013 at 10:15 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Walking Void - July 16, 2013 at 7:32 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Bad Writer - July 15, 2013 at 9:57 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by LostLocke - July 21, 2013 at 2:53 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Polaris - July 22, 2013 at 8:30 pm

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