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Government as a Religion
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RE: Government as a Religion
(July 12, 2013 at 11:29 am)Koolay Wrote:
(July 12, 2013 at 11:16 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Used to say?

People have always said in history that without religion or God we would all be killing and stealing from each other.

Just in history, or even today?

(July 12, 2013 at 11:29 am)Koolay Wrote:
(July 12, 2013 at 11:16 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: That aside, even if you have anarchy, you still haven't done away with government. There may not be a governing body, but individuals will still govern themselves, so you haven't exactly done away with choice or consequences for actions if you have gotten rid of government.

Isn't that preferable? Surely you want people to self organise and govern without initiating violence.

How can you possibly know that? There are many different working models of anarchy, and violence actually fits into many of them. You are wrong wrong wrong. Go read a book.

(July 12, 2013 at 11:29 am)Koolay Wrote: It's not that I am unhappy with the government. The government is morally and logically wrong by it's own test of logic and morality, it is an irrational entity as it tells citizens that using aggression is wrong, but they can bomb kids houses half way across the world.

If you think it's irrational, then work towards reforming it! Your logic doesn't cover all its bases, and is, therefore, irrational.

(July 12, 2013 at 11:29 am)Koolay Wrote: Why would I try to reform something which is evil by definition? The belief that government can be good 'if only I can reform it' is like joining the Mafia to try and change it into a peaceful and voluntary society. A predator can not be persuaded and convinced to not to eat the gazelle.

Then go live in the woods if you don't like "evil" government! I wouldn't want you voting against me anyway!
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Messages In This Thread
Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 12, 2013 at 10:28 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by LastPoet - July 12, 2013 at 10:56 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by genkaus - July 12, 2013 at 11:03 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Bad Writer - July 12, 2013 at 11:04 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 12, 2013 at 11:08 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by genkaus - July 12, 2013 at 11:18 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Bad Writer - July 12, 2013 at 11:11 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 12, 2013 at 11:13 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Bad Writer - July 12, 2013 at 11:16 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 12, 2013 at 11:29 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by genkaus - July 12, 2013 at 11:37 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Bad Writer - July 12, 2013 at 11:50 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 12, 2013 at 12:02 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Bad Writer - July 12, 2013 at 12:06 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 12, 2013 at 12:07 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by CleanShavenJesus - July 12, 2013 at 12:09 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by pocaracas - July 12, 2013 at 12:16 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Doubting Thomas - July 12, 2013 at 1:29 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 12, 2013 at 1:41 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by genkaus - July 12, 2013 at 10:35 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 12, 2013 at 1:42 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by bennyboy - July 12, 2013 at 10:21 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Bad Writer - July 12, 2013 at 2:27 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Angrboda - July 12, 2013 at 2:48 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 13, 2013 at 1:13 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by _xenu_ - July 13, 2013 at 1:34 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 13, 2013 at 2:21 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 13, 2013 at 2:20 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by LostLocke - July 13, 2013 at 3:42 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Angrboda - July 13, 2013 at 4:50 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by genkaus - July 13, 2013 at 6:02 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Angrboda - July 13, 2013 at 7:22 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by genkaus - July 13, 2013 at 8:06 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Angrboda - July 13, 2013 at 10:20 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by genkaus - July 14, 2013 at 8:15 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by LostLocke - July 14, 2013 at 8:15 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by bennyboy - July 14, 2013 at 4:25 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Minimalist - July 13, 2013 at 4:05 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 13, 2013 at 6:07 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by genkaus - July 13, 2013 at 6:18 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 14, 2013 at 5:22 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Whateverist - July 14, 2013 at 5:46 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by genkaus - July 14, 2013 at 8:04 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 14, 2013 at 5:25 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 14, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 14, 2013 at 5:35 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 14, 2013 at 5:50 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Bad Writer - July 14, 2013 at 5:44 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 14, 2013 at 5:47 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Whateverist - July 14, 2013 at 5:52 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 14, 2013 at 5:51 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 14, 2013 at 5:55 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by bennyboy - July 14, 2013 at 7:36 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Whateverist - July 15, 2013 at 1:11 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by bennyboy - July 15, 2013 at 8:22 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 14, 2013 at 5:53 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 14, 2013 at 5:56 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 14, 2013 at 6:07 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 14, 2013 at 6:09 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Koolay - July 19, 2013 at 6:59 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 19, 2013 at 8:08 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by cratehorus - July 19, 2013 at 8:10 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 14, 2013 at 6:15 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Bad Writer - July 14, 2013 at 7:27 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 15, 2013 at 8:30 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Bad Writer - July 15, 2013 at 9:46 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by thesummerqueen - July 15, 2013 at 9:47 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Whateverist - July 15, 2013 at 10:00 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Tonus - July 15, 2013 at 10:15 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by Walking Void - July 16, 2013 at 7:32 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Bad Writer - July 15, 2013 at 9:57 am
RE: Government as a Religion - by LostLocke - July 21, 2013 at 2:53 pm
RE: Government as a Religion - by Polaris - July 22, 2013 at 8:30 pm

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