(July 18, 2013 at 5:30 pm)smax Wrote: So, in your mind, it's okay that he was demanding that you leave because the place wasn't worth hanging around in the first place?
I'm trying to follow your logic here.
So you would have just attacked the dude? He wasn't that big of a guy. Both my friend and I were bigger than him and he was alone. Also he didn't have the gun on him yet. In that case Trayvon and his "homie" would have beaten the guy senseless.
I just don't happen to be a thug.
(July 18, 2013 at 5:30 pm)smax Wrote: I'm not blaming you for leaving, I'm just telling you that not everyone is going to react as you did. In fact, that's how many wars have started: over territory being disputed.
No shit?
*rolls eyes* I think you could have left this paragraph out.
(July 18, 2013 at 5:30 pm)smax Wrote: First of all, "lethal" does not necessarily mean "Sure death". It's generally accepted that lethal is something that will cause great damage and could potentially kill you.
Already covered it right before you posted.
(July 18, 2013 at 5:30 pm)smax Wrote: However, even if you accept only the most extreme definition of the word, we are still talking about someone threatening you with a deadly weapon, which could very easily kill you regardless of the users intent.
Yep. So? Regardless, he didn't threaten to kill anyone.
(July 18, 2013 at 5:30 pm)smax Wrote: Oh, well then I guess it's perfectly okay to threaten or even shoot someone simply because you don't like them exercising their natural right to go wherever they please. They'll probably survive your assualt anyway.
Nope. The guy was a crazy, violent redneck. I try to avoid those types.
They're not a very civilized animal. I have attempted to study them from a distance. It's quite fascinating. Their main food group appears to be Coors Light and they listened to this other redneck named George Strait.
Sometimes I thought I could almost understand the grunts they would make to one another.
(July 18, 2013 at 5:30 pm)smax Wrote: Oh wait, Trayvon didn't survive. We might have to rethink that approach.
Yeah he didn't. He learned the hard way that when you act like Mr Violent Thug sometimes you don't get to grow old.
Look, I think BOTH of the guys were being overly aggressive that night.
Here a couple years back these twin brothers were at a bar, were drunk, and started fucking with these two guys. Knocking beers out of their hands and acting like shit bastards. It breaks out in a full on fight. They kick them out. The twins go out back, the friends go out front. One of the two friends checks for his wallet and it's gone. He assumes one of the twins took it. So he ran around back to confront them. The twins grab him, throw him on the ground, savagely pound on him, and then start kicking the shit out of him.
His buddy comes around back, sees these two guys stomping on his prone friend. So the buddy takes out his pocket knife, rushes them, and puts both the twins in the hospital. One went to the emergency room, the other to the morgue.
Courts ruled that the twins were at fault because they were stomping the guy's buddy, who was laying on the ground, all to shit. The guy had a reasonable expectation that his friend was going to be killed.
It sucks that one of those twins died, right? But when you act aggressively to another person you are ALWAYS running the risk of potential death.
Trayvon thought he was a little 17 year old badass. Those guys die every day. Trayvon isn't special.
Everything I needed to know about life I learned on Dagobah.