(July 19, 2013 at 6:50 pm)ronedee Wrote: Wrong! Message is of love and forgivness. But you have to want that!
That is how it is presented, and how gullible and stupid people accept it. If love and forgiveness were really the point, there wouldn't be promises and threats.
(July 19, 2013 at 6:31 pm)Ryantology Wrote: He's a lot like us...huh?
Yes, very much like us. That's kind of the point.
(July 19, 2013 at 6:31 pm)Ryantology Wrote: ...do you just make this stuff up as you go along? You look at AA as you do religion: this monster that grows unabated.... when in actuality its "people helping people". Fellowship and support doesn't work if you don't want it. There are plenty of "sober people" willing to help by coming to your home if you'd like! aka: NO SHORTAGE OF HELP!
No, I don't look at AA as if it was a 'monster', just that it is not effective, and part of the reason why is because a fundamental of the program is that it relies on belief in a fictional being.
(July 19, 2013 at 6:31 pm)Ryantology Wrote: Wrong again! No wonder why you hate Christianity! You are a treasure-trove of mis-information and distrust. A vicious circle that feeds itself.
I suppose it's more accurately "Do what I want and get rewarded, don't do what I want and pay the ultimate price". The Christian message appeals to human selfishness and fear of death in order to control their behavior and their lives (and, of course, make a profit).
