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atheism a culture or an idea?
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RE: atheism a culture or an idea?
(July 20, 2013 at 4:03 pm)christcahinkilla Wrote: lol like agnostic atheism conflating?

I know but...
I don't know.

Agnostic atheism is...

I don't know, but...

there is no justification to believe.

Do you see the different words used above? The first line uses 'know', the second uses 'believe'.

Again, you may want research the meanings of 'knowledge' and 'belief', your confusion stems from your misunderstanding of them.

Let's try this a different way in hopes that it may sink in. What the heck, I'm an optimist.

Belief is the psychological state where one holds a premise or proposition to be true. This is the definition considered the most accurate by the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, one of the leading publications on the subject.

Do you agree with that definition?

To be a theist, one has to have the active belief that a god or gods exist.

If you don't have an active belief that a god exists, you are an atheist.

It really can't get much more simple. There is nothing else to it. All the other baggage you are attempting to load onto atheism, is disingenuous.

That's it. One response to one claim.

Claim - a god exists
Response - I don't believe your claim
= atheism (without the belief in a god)

Quote:is charlie darkwing your leader? your one god? how are you different from theism cultures?

How are we different? We don't have a god, dogma, doctrine, or anything else (besides our disbelieve in the existence of gods) that identifies us. We require: demonstrable evidence, reasoned argument and valid & sound logic to support our beliefs.

If a claim does not meet the above criteria, there is no justification to believe.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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atheism a culture or an idea? - by christcahinkilla - July 20, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: atheism a culture or an idea? - by genkaus - July 20, 2013 at 3:02 pm
RE: atheism a culture or an idea? - by christcahinkilla - July 20, 2013 at 3:04 pm
RE: atheism a culture or an idea? - by christcahinkilla - July 20, 2013 at 3:38 pm
RE: atheism a culture or an idea? - by Chas - July 20, 2013 at 3:58 pm
RE: atheism a culture or an idea? - by NoraBrimstone - July 20, 2013 at 3:52 pm
RE: atheism a culture or an idea? - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2013 at 3:57 pm
RE: atheism a culture or an idea? - by christcahinkilla - July 20, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: atheism a culture or an idea? - by Simon Moon - July 20, 2013 at 5:07 pm
RE: atheism a culture or an idea? - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2013 at 4:12 pm
RE: atheism a culture or an idea? - by christcahinkilla - July 20, 2013 at 4:22 pm
RE: atheism a culture or an idea? - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2013 at 4:25 pm
RE: atheism a culture or an idea? - by Gilgamesh - July 20, 2013 at 4:43 pm
RE: atheism a culture or an idea? - by Angrboda - July 20, 2013 at 4:44 pm
RE: atheism a culture or an idea? - by christcahinkilla - July 20, 2013 at 5:01 pm
RE: atheism a culture or an idea? - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2013 at 5:25 pm
RE: atheism a culture or an idea? - by Angrboda - July 20, 2013 at 5:40 pm
RE: atheism a culture or an idea? - by Faith No More - July 20, 2013 at 8:14 pm
RE: atheism a culture or an idea? - by Gilgamesh - July 22, 2013 at 7:47 pm
RE: atheism a culture or an idea? - by paulpablo - July 23, 2013 at 2:05 am

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