(July 20, 2013 at 1:08 am)Esquilax Wrote:(July 20, 2013 at 12:38 am)ronedee Wrote: "absolutely nothing but my own thoughts"...sure bub!
Well, hold on there: you guys are always so quick to treat your words as self evident, but the moment you're asked to substantiate your claims you're remarkably gun-shy, while at the same time retaining that brash self assured confidence in the validity of your own ideas.
How are we supposed to validate that what you're saying is true?
And please, please don't tell me to read the bible. That's circular reasoning.
Nothing is "absolute" except: God, death, taxes; and NOT getting a message across to you guys!
What do you need for validation? Would life itself be enough? Its enough for me!
All I get is the million different shades of reasoning from atheists. It's interesting when presented with any kink in the atheist armor the pat answer is..."well we all have different views on atheism." That sounds more like a cop-out. Or agnostic reasoning.
So, I'm still held to some standard of [exact science] and reasoning for my experiences about God. But, you and/or others get to waffle around the place!
I will continue to say that some things about God and religion are self-evident. Some are "spiritual reasoning" in the process of moving toward God.
But you wouldn't have any clue about spiritual reasoning. You wouldn't know where to begin. So ridicule is the order of the day.
It always comes to this around here. Because this isn't about "finding" God. It's about tearing Him down... using whatever method is handy.
I keep thinking the religious fundamentalists are correct. Just throw scripture at you. And hit you with fire and brimstone! Why do I try to reason a path to God using simple terms, and personal example. It's just not worth the efforts. Its really a slighting of God, and His divine power. And my personal witnessing only goes to waste.
There is only one way to God. Jesus Christ! IF you ..."seek, you will find. Ask, and it will be given to you."
How this for an "absolute"? In earnest sincerity "ask"! Guaranteed you will get an answer! But alas, you won't! You would rather ask how I can guarantee that you will?
And that's where the "spiritual" resides. But the only GPS is Jesus for that trip.
Quis ut Deus?