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The Fine-Tuning Argument
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RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument
Fine Tuning did make some sense to me back when I believed, yet now I think it is based on some sort of "logical mysticism": that is, you move the cause of what happens in the world from the world itself to somewhere else.

In my opinion, a good objection to the Fine-Tuning argument is that what it postulates is absolutely unnecessary and can have a much simpler explanation through naturalism; that means, use Occam's Razor.

A Xstian would most likely move the goalposts and say that Fine Tuning is fallacious only in an "atheist worldview". I happened to discuss with such a guy on youtube (username: "CalamitasDeus", look at his channel, it's quite hilarious), obviously to no result.

The problem is actually to make them understand how their worldview is not based on any proven fact and as such is not acceptable.
"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.

Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.

Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.

Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.

Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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The Fine-Tuning Argument - by MindForgedManacle - July 15, 2013 at 10:24 pm
RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument - by Anomalocaris - July 15, 2013 at 10:33 pm
RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument - by Angrboda - July 15, 2013 at 10:39 pm
RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument - by rexbeccarox - July 15, 2013 at 10:46 pm
RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument - by Chas - July 15, 2013 at 10:58 pm
RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument - by Angrboda - July 15, 2013 at 11:06 pm
RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument - by MindForgedManacle - July 15, 2013 at 11:19 pm
RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument - by Angrboda - July 15, 2013 at 11:45 pm
RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument - by MindForgedManacle - July 16, 2013 at 12:10 am
RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument - by Lucanus - July 22, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument - by ManMachine - July 22, 2013 at 3:20 pm
RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument - by Kim - July 23, 2013 at 7:09 am
RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument - by genkaus - July 23, 2013 at 7:17 am
RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument - by Tonus - July 23, 2013 at 8:51 am
RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument - by little_monkey - July 23, 2013 at 9:48 am
RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument - by genkaus - July 23, 2013 at 9:54 am
RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument - by davidMC1982 - July 23, 2013 at 1:05 pm
RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument - by Walking Void - July 23, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument - by Anomalocaris - July 23, 2013 at 1:05 pm
RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument - by Walking Void - July 23, 2013 at 1:23 pm
RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument - by Anomalocaris - July 23, 2013 at 1:32 pm
RE: The Fine-Tuning Argument - by max-greece - July 23, 2013 at 2:08 pm

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