(July 24, 2013 at 5:23 pm)ronedee Wrote: And you assert knowledge where there is NONE! What is the Truth?
Unless you have an answer as to how "life" came about, you can't disprove that God created it.
No, we don't claim that. But nor can you prove that he did.
ronedee Wrote:And you are making the claim there is no God. Yet you don't have an answer as to how everything exists.
Let me ask you again.... How did everything come into existence? Unless you can give me a concise answer then you have no grounds for saying that God doesn't exist! Simple.
We are not claiming to be able to prove there are no gods.
"I don't believe there is a god" is not the same statement as "There is no god".
There is no evidence for any gods, therefore I don't have a belief in gods.
ronedee Wrote:I have "personal" evidence of God. So do most who love Him. That's the way He works!
I asked you in another thread (which you people just swap responses like musical chairs) you never answered:
What evidence do you need to fall to your knees and worship God?
Your personal 'evidence' is not evidence. It is your own, not shared, and therefore does not meet the standards of evidence.
ronedee Wrote:(July 24, 2013 at 11:18 am)Esquilax Wrote: "Stuff exists, therefore god." Really. Fucking really?
Why not God? Because you can't see Him? He doesn't fit your idea of a God? You know better than a GOD?!
Why not? Lack of evidence.
ronedee Wrote:Brush-up on your astrophysics. There are many, many things uncertain in the universe, but the one thing that is certain is: "Everything in the universe [came into existence] from [infinite density]" (aka as small as it is now large)!!! Do you have any concept of that statement? The universe [was nothing]! And [came into existence]! You ask by what? I say by who.
And we merely ask "How?" Asking "by who" is presupposionist.
ronedee Wrote:Then how could you make a case against God if you don't know it all?
I don't need to make a case against god - I am making no claim.
You are claiming there is a god, you must make the case.
ronedee Wrote:As I have said over and over again. God is there for those would want Him. This life isn't about God serving man! He gave us life, and a choice. You choose NOT to believe. And until you actually look for Him, you won't find Him.
I could tell you miracle after miracle answered by God...but you still wouldn't believe me... or anyone for that matter.
I believe evidence. There is no evidence of miracles.
ronedee Wrote:(July 24, 2013 at 11:18 am)Esquilax Wrote: It's almost like you don't have any actual answers at all!
But then again... I could say the same for you.
What answers have you provided to me that God doesn't exist?
The complete lack of evidence. Your mental states, feelings, ideas, are not evidence.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
Science is not a subject, but a method.