(July 25, 2013 at 9:04 am)Esquilax Wrote:(July 25, 2013 at 5:48 am)enrico Wrote: Dear Esq., you got to understand what is the consciousness and her role in the life of every creature.
Animals are driven by instinct while humans although they have some instinct they also have free will.
With the free will you are able to do the right thing and reach human emancipation.
The sperm whale or any other animal have still to reach the stage in which the free will will take over.
So, essentially your response to my asking you for proof of your completely bald, by fiat assertions is more by fiat assertions?
How do you know all this? Knowledge is demonstrated, not just asserted. How do you know whales are driven solely by instinct? How can you say they have no consciousness or free will? Whales spend their entire lives hanging out in the oceans like a boss, they seem pretty freaking smart to me. Now, don't just assert your position again: demonstrate it. What makes you sure of this? Once again, have you even been near a sperm whale?
You are the one who say that whales are driven solely by instinct.
I instead said that whales are driven by instinct.
That does not mean that a bit of consciousness is there and got to be there if evolution is possible as in case of human evolution of the past.
You see, you are not reading my previous posts and then you come up with your own judgments.
In my previous post i also made clear that animals have a limited consciousness as you can see below.
Sperm whale brain is 5-6 time bigger and yet her consciousness is so much smaller.
A worm with his primitive consciousness came in existence just for pure bad luck on the other hand a human being came in existence with his-her more developed consciousness just by good luck.
Anyway going back to consciousness.
How consciousness can develop?
Living as animal or lower species like plants take ages and ages as free will is very limited.
Free will development work like an avalanche.
In the beginning it move very very slow but as it move it take more and more speed.
That is exactly how evolution work.
It start in the mineral world.
You can see that the energy in the uranium tend to escape in order to get out of his bondage with the matter.
In the vegetable life.
You can see the climbing plants moving in search of better condition.
In the animal life the same thing but as the life evolve into human life everything goes faster and faster as the avalanche of evolution build up more and more consciousness.
