(July 26, 2013 at 11:18 am)ronedee Wrote: Here let me help you! AGNOSTIC: "PROBABLY" ...... ATHEIST: "NO"
What's hard about understanding that? Are we losing something in the translation here?
Wrong again.
You wrote:
Quote:1: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
You snuck in the idiotic and pointless term "ultimate reality" to which you added the word "god" and added that the agnostic assumes that these things are inknowable.
on contrast the accurate definition is:
Quote:Agnosticism is the view that the truth values of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, as well as other religious and metaphysical claims—are unknown and (so far as can be judged) unknowable.[1][2][3] Agnosticism can be defined in various ways, and is sometimes used to indicate doubt or a skeptical approach to questions. In some senses, agnosticism is a stance about the difference between belief and knowledge, rather than about any specific claim or belief
So why change a definition of a term? Do you think you can thereby change reality into what you think it should be like?!?!????
No mention of "Ultimate reality" whatever the fuck that is suposed to mean! And absolutly no mentioning of the word "god"!