RE: Blind faith and evolution
July 28, 2013 at 6:19 am
(This post was last modified: July 28, 2013 at 6:35 am by Little Rik.)
downbeatplumb Wrote:Brain function can be observed with MRI scanners. That is the physical manifestation of conciousness the firing of neurons can be seen and in some cases interpreted.
Sorry to say but consciousness can not have a physical manifestation for the simple reason that is totally outside the physical arena.
What you can observe with MRI are as you say the brain functions which have little to do with consciousness.
You can see what is inside the computer hardware but you can not see what is inside the person who use the computer.
At the same time you can see what is inside the brain but you can not see what is inside the one who decide what to think or do with the help of the brain.
It has already been experienced by thousand of people who had a NDE experience that as soon as the body and the brain die the consciousness take over and you are still alive without body and mind so to understand how the brains works it does not mean that you can understand how the consciousness work as well.
(July 27, 2013 at 5:16 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:(July 27, 2013 at 10:14 am)enrico Wrote: You can see a bright aura around saints and spiritual minded people and at the same time you can perceive a dark feeling around rapist and murderers.
This is just so ridiculous.
Subjectivity. You've gone with the 'saints = good, murderers = bad' idea which fits in line with your overly simplistic black and white approach to life.
Ignoring the fact that what you describe is nothing more than a personal fantasy you've concocted in your own head, the notion of clearly defined good and bad that 'surrounds' people is just such tripe only a child would conceive of it has being representative of reality.
Joan of arc. A saint to the French, the villain to the English. Hitler, a saint to those who thought a nazi germany would be a strong and independent Germany, a villain to those who fell outside of his perfect society. George Washington, a saint to the patriot movement in the US struggle for indepdence, a villain to those who thought an America under the British crown was preferable.And so on and so on. Nothing is black and white.
You are making a terrible confusion.
Nothing is black and white in front of human being but are the human being that will judge the right or wrong or is the karma law?
Sorry no kudos today.
(July 27, 2013 at 1:31 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Rico, how do you know that these feelings that you are interpreting as "higher consciousness" are not simply the effect of neurochemicals upon the brain brought about by deep relaxation techniques? Especially since we know and can prove that such chemicals do exist and actually do affect the brain in such ways.
What seems to be happening is that you're trying to explain to us the rush you get from meditating and insisting it has to be something mystical, whereas we are basically agreeing that you have these fuzzy feelings and saying "yes, it's chemicals in your brain doing that." Put in another context, you're being mindblown by watching a magic trick and sticking your fingers in your ears to someone pointing out that it's not actually magic.
As Castronaut you also make a terrible confusion.
Drugs and chemical reaction affect the brain ok but those effect last as long as the drugs or chemical reaction last which put a time limit to the process.
On the other hand when you raise your kundalini the effect last as you fight for and conquer the obstacles and that is the reward.
No kudos also for you Stimbo.