Blind faith and evolution

[Little Rik]

Says you without any evidence to support your assertion. We can see the brain function, consciousness is the output of the brain functioning, in the same way that shit is the end process of the digestive system functioning. Accept it and move on.

You are asserting that ......... consciousness is the output of the brain functioning...........
How did you work that out?
Did you read it in the wikipedia?
You still are stuck with the dogma that the brain is the one who decide what to think or do.
I can understand you in a way.
Before to start intuitional science i was thinking the same.
But as the saying goes............is never too late to wake up and grow up.


[quote=Enrico]What you can observe with MRI are as you say the brain functions which have little to do with consciousness.
You can see what is inside the computer hardware but you can not see what is inside the person who use the computer.

Yes we can because it is the same thing.

Sure, when you sit for long time inside a car you may come to the conclusion that you are the car.
That can be funny but at the same time it doesn't make any sens at all.

neurophysiological processes must play some part in NDE. Similar experiences can be induced through electrical stimulation of the temporal lobe (and hence of the hippocampus) during neurosurgery for epilepsy, with high carbon dioxide levels (hypercarbia), and in decreased cerebral perfusion resulting in local cerebral hypoxia as in rapid acceleration during training of fighter pilots, or as in hyperventilation followed by Valsalva manoeuvre. Ketamine-induced experiences resulting from blockage of the NMDA receptor, and the role of endorphin, serotonin, and enkephalin have also been mentioned, as have near-death-like experiences after the use of LSD, psilocarpine, and mescaline. These induced experiences can consist of unconsciousness, out-of-body experiences, and perception of light or flashes of recollection from the past

http://www.skepdic.com/nde.html

Sure in certain circumstances you can leave you body as you mention above.
The differences however are very different from when you leave your body in a natural way that is when the NDE is not caused by drugs or other wanted causes.
In the natural case you are totally aware of what goes on and the experience is focus clear.
That does not happen when the experience is induced where everything is out of focus and is difficult to remember.
Just like the difference between making love and masturbating.