RE: Blind faith and evolution
July 28, 2013 at 12:35 pm
(This post was last modified: July 28, 2013 at 12:44 pm by Angrboda.)
(July 28, 2013 at 6:19 am)enrico Wrote:(July 27, 2013 at 1:31 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Rico, how do you know that these feelings that you are interpreting as "higher consciousness" are not simply the effect of neurochemicals upon the brain brought about by deep relaxation techniques? Especially since we know and can prove that such chemicals do exist and actually do affect the brain in such ways.
What seems to be happening is that you're trying to explain to us the rush you get from meditating and insisting it has to be something mystical, whereas we are basically agreeing that you have these fuzzy feelings and saying "yes, it's chemicals in your brain doing that." Put in another context, you're being mindblown by watching a magic trick and sticking your fingers in your ears to someone pointing out that it's not actually magic.
Drugs and chemical reaction affect the brain ok but those effect last as long as the drugs or chemical reaction last which put a time limit to the process.
This is simply false. We know that many drugs, if administered repeatedly, like meditation is repeatedly administered, can result in permanent changes to the brain which persist even in the absence of the drug. And the normal brain processes such as learning, memory, and development are themselves chemical processes, so to deny that chemical processes can result in durable changes to the brain is simply absurd and provably false.
I'm going to be charitable here and point out that nobody is doubting that you have had profound experiences; what they doubt is that you know for certain that they are indications of the metaphysical, ontological and physical effects that you claim they are. And seeing that these claims aren't even original to you, but borrowed from Hindu traditions (i.e. repeated as dogma), it doesn't appear that you've either discovered or demonstrated the truth of karma or reincarnation, you're simply repeating what you've been told, and explaining your own experience in light of the things you have been told.
A profound experience in and of itself is evidence of nothing, as all religious traditions lay claim to such profound experiences as evidence of their religious beliefs. Either they are evidence, and all conflicting religions are true, or they simply aren't evidence.
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