RE: Blind faith and evolution
July 29, 2013 at 10:31 am
(This post was last modified: July 29, 2013 at 10:49 am by Little Rik.)
apophenia Wrote:We know that many drugs, if administered repeatedly, like meditation is repeatedly administered, can result in permanent changes to the brain which persist even in the absence of the drug. And the normal brain processes such as learning, memory, and development are themselves chemical processes, so to deny that chemical processes can result in durable changes to the brain is simply absurd and provably false.
First of all i wouldn't mix drugs effect with meditation.
It would be like mixing masturbation with making love.
Since you start with the wrong foot everything that follow is also incorrect.
While masturbation produce long term problem making love does not.
Drugs effect affect the brains ok and in a bad way but meditation goes well over the brain.
Meditation goes right into the consciousness but what would you know about it considering that you never practice the REAL yoga.
Quote:I'm going to be charitable here and point out that nobody is doubting that you have had profound experiences; what they doubt is that you know for certain that they are indications of the metaphysical, ontological and physical effects that you claim they are. And seeing that these claims aren't even original to you, but borrowed from Hindu traditions (i.e. repeated as dogma), it doesn't appear that you've either discovered or demonstrated the truth of karma or reincarnation, you're simply repeating what you've been told, and explaining your own experience in light of the things you have been told.
Thanks for your charity but put in this way. You want to learn something.
The teacher will say to you............if you follow my teaching you will get here or there.
You follow his-her teaching and you realize that you really get here or there so why shouldn't you allow to repeating what your teacher said to you?
Quote:A profound experience in and of itself is evidence of nothing, as all religious traditions lay claim to such profound experiences as evidence of their religious beliefs. Either they are evidence, and all conflicting religions are true, or they simply aren't evidence.
Again you are making a terrible confusion.
Experience can be something that was lived in the past and may be gone by now on the other hand a permanent state of bliss and peace of mind is something that stay with you.
Religions have very little to do with spirituality so they will find very very difficult to come up with permanent state of peace of mind as a spiritualist is able to come up with.
While an experience can prove very little a permanent state of internal peace can, but again what can you understand when you never practice the REAL yoga.
Oh, by the way what's wrong with you?
This time you did not come up with your usual verbal bashing?
Did you find some peace?
whateverist Wrote:If your judgement is likewise human judgement, from what vantage point do you pretend to prescribe the limits of human judgement? Wouldn't your idea of the limits of human judgement be limited, first and foremost, by your own experience, education and capacities? If you answer it is by way of your consciousness, how do you know your grip on consciousness is in any way superior to anyone else here? No one in their right mind is going to accept your absurd pronouncements.
Did i ever said that my consciousness judgement power is superior to someone who is not into consciousness?
Of course i never said that.
I do not know what is my degree of consciousness power so i would not come up with pretending that i am a good judge.
What i can say is that anyone who has a high consciousness power is much more able to have a higher judgement power then anyone who is not into consciousness.
Why is that so?
Consciousness is like an iceberg.
The small tip at the top is the rational mind or what most of the people can perceive but the part under the water is the gift as Einstein put it.
So by getting the gift on the surface you are able to come up with a lot more knowledge.