RE: Blind faith and evolution
July 30, 2013 at 9:11 am
(This post was last modified: July 30, 2013 at 9:41 am by Little Rik.)
(July 29, 2013 at 11:21 am)whateverist Wrote:(July 29, 2013 at 10:31 am)enrico Wrote: The small tip at the top is the rational mind or what most of the people can perceive but the part under the water is the gift as Einstein put it.
So by getting the gift on the surface you are able to come up with a lot more knowledge.
This gets at the difference between the aims of spirituality and of integration. The idea that you drag the unconscious mind to the surface where you can plunder it with your conscious mind is the essence of spirituality. The goal of spirituality is for the conscious mind -Einstein's faithful servant- to take over the gift. Integration brings the two together but while the conscious mind becomes more and more in tune with the unconscious, it never takes over. The conscious mind remains the servant and in that way the totality of the self flourishes.
I tend to see spirituality as a kind of escapism from the actuality of the unconscious. The unconscious, like the world, is what it is. It will never bend to your will. Spirituality seeks the high places where one can see far. But life is in the valleys and swamps. I've done some spiritual questing and taken in some nice views but I choose to abide in the lowlands. The heights are ultimately sterile and devoid of life. It is better to find your place in the swamp where you are a part of something bigger and have lots of company.
You are confusing conscious with unconscious and then not being able to reach a high ground in your search for spiritual achievement you say that is not worth the trying.
This is typical of people who give up the fight without putting up a real effort and then blame something or somebody else for their failure.
Sorry, not good enough.
(July 29, 2013 at 12:17 pm)LostLocke Wrote:(July 29, 2013 at 10:31 am)enrico Wrote: Did i ever said that my consciousness judgement power is superior to someone who is not into consciousness?Ummm, you basically just said that someone with a higher consciousness does have superior judgement power to someone without a higher consciousness.
Of course i never said that.
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What i can say is that anyone who has a high consciousness power is much more able to have a higher judgement power then anyone who is not into consciousness.
I understand that this concept seem very confusing and it may need an explanation.
Suppose you are a genius and i am not.
Today i start practicing intuitional science so i can improve my skills by bringing to the surface from my subconscious more knowledge.
Do you think that in one day or in one year i can produce more knowledge and say that i am better then you?
Who knows? Probably not.
Probably it may take a life time or ten life times.
All depend on the level that you are and the level that i am. But if we start on the same level then the one who practice intuitional science will be a lot more advanced.
It is like when you star a race.
If you start first and i start later on even if i can run a bit faster it still will be difficult to catch up with you but if we start together thanks to my work i will able to beat you.