(July 30, 2013 at 12:45 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You don't reason _to_ God, you reason _from_ God.
You don't assume that "God" is a coherent word, you understand that it is. The concept of "God" is a logically coherent one.
So, basically you have presuppose a god exists, in order to base your reason on said presupposition.
And this is different from gullibility how?
Quote:Of course an atheist position would be to discredit that. Hence the endless attmpted refutations of biblical logic in presenting what is clearly defined.
Skipping a few steps there, aren't you?
Like proving ANY god exists before defining his/her/its/their attributes. Those attributes being the god described in the bible.
Quote:This is ass about face because of the above: The world makes sense considering God, and never the other way around.
The universe makes complete sense without a god. Which universe are you referring to?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.