The God Assumption

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You don't reason _to_ God, you reason _from_ God.

Oh, I don't think we'll be letting you get away with saying that without evidence...

You don't assume that "God" is a coherent word, you understand that it is. The concept of "God" is a logically coherent one.

So's the concept of Darth Vader. Internal consistency isn't the sole criteria for reality. It is, however, the first criteria of a good story.

Of course an atheist position would be to discredit that. Hence the endless attmpted refutations of biblical logic in presenting what is clearly defined.

What's your point here? What's so great about things being defined? I can define something in excruciating detail without it being in any way true.

This is ass about face because of the above: The world makes sense considering God, and never the other way around.

"God must be real, because I don't understand how things work!"

Or possibly, "God must be real, because I can't be bothered finding out how things actually work!"

Oh no, I got this: "God must be real, because we don't know everything yet!"

The world makes sense considering god in a very surface sense. Why? Because magic works as an excuse for anything! Why is the sky blue? Magic! Why does air exist? Magic! Where did my socks go? Magic!

Wanna know something crazy? People have been using this same shoulder-shrugging excuse for their ignorance for centuries. The unifying factor is that when the answer is actually discovered, it has never turned out to be god.

Also, in a real, deep sense, the universe makes no more sense with a god in it than it does without, and I'll tell you why: God doesn't actually explain shit. Oh, in your worldview god might be the what answer to your questions, but "what?" isn't a useful answer to a "why?" or a "how?" question. When we ask "how was the universe formed?" and you answer with "god," it's the equivalent of my asking "how are hotdogs made?" and you answering "meat."

Yes, I fucking know there's meat involved, but I didn't ask that. I asked how, and you haven't come anywhere near answering that. Unless you've got some details on how your god creates, or does the things he does, then you have absolutely no grounds for saying god makes things make sense!

You would be denying your son intelligent thought in denying this.