(August 5, 2013 at 9:51 am)enrico Wrote:(August 5, 2013 at 9:07 am)enrico Wrote: There got to be some consciousness in the worm otherwise how could he move and follow his ways around.
BadWriterSparty Wrote:By this ill-informed logic, there must be a consciousness in certain plants too.
Sure there is otherwise the climbers wouldn't bother to move around looking for better condition to prosper.
enrico Wrote:Does a science book say that a worm is a robot?
BadWriterSparty Wrote:I suppose you'll never know until you read one.
You show me that the science say that worms are robot and i will make you pope.
Chas Wrote:Define 'consciousness'. A worm has a nervous system and responds to environmental stimuli.
Sorry but a nervous system is not enough to make a worm decide what to eat or where to go in his search for the right place to live.
Decision making is the key to physical survival and this decision is not driven by a nervous system.
Behind a nervous system there is always a consciousness otherwise the creature wouldn't have any feelings.
I already show a link in which once you are able to disconnect the consciousness from the body you do not feel any pain.
As far as the worm does not like to be crushed and mashed then it means that consciousness is there.
http://jamie-monk.blogspot.com.au/2011/0...urite.html
Quote:Define 'robot'. But, yes, a worm is effectively a robot.
No, is not as explain above.
Quote:Your post implied that some sort of being chose to be born one way or another.
No, i never said that.
Nobody choose to go through the trouble of creation and evolution.
Everybody consciousness would like to be home where they belong.
Your definition of consciousness does not correspond with reality.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
Science is not a subject, but a method.