RE: The Quran - A Miracle
August 7, 2013 at 6:44 pm
(This post was last modified: August 7, 2013 at 6:47 pm by ThatMuslimGuy2.)
Let's clarify something.
When a word like that is used in anywhere outside of the qur'an, is it meant to mean 1 of the 4 meanings or all of the 4 meanings?
BTW, you haven't responded to my earlier post saying that even if all this is true, doesn't prove god.
The use of the word depends on context. For expample if I wanted to say someone is rich I cud say they are musi'.
So outside it could mean all or only 1.
The Qurans context allows for all the 4 interpretations. As the scholars express in there tafsirs.
My standpointvis this. To say that the statements in the Quran , unknown in the 7th century, are a coincidence or mere chance would be irrational and illogical. The best explanation is that God revealed this knowledge to the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). If I provided 10-20+ similar statements its illogical to thimk they were lucky guesses.
That's not what I asked. Since there can be - must be - multiple meanings of the words, what makes your chosen interpretation any more valid than all the others? Remember that you're trying to establish the veracity of your book's authority here.
There all valid. The verse to say Allah is expanding the universe is valid. The verse to Say Allah encompasses the Universe with his knowledge is valid. The verse to Allah provides is valid. The verse to say Allah is Rich and powerful is valid.
When a word like that is used in anywhere outside of the qur'an, is it meant to mean 1 of the 4 meanings or all of the 4 meanings?
BTW, you haven't responded to my earlier post saying that even if all this is true, doesn't prove god.
The use of the word depends on context. For expample if I wanted to say someone is rich I cud say they are musi'.
So outside it could mean all or only 1.
The Qurans context allows for all the 4 interpretations. As the scholars express in there tafsirs.
My standpointvis this. To say that the statements in the Quran , unknown in the 7th century, are a coincidence or mere chance would be irrational and illogical. The best explanation is that God revealed this knowledge to the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). If I provided 10-20+ similar statements its illogical to thimk they were lucky guesses.
That's not what I asked. Since there can be - must be - multiple meanings of the words, what makes your chosen interpretation any more valid than all the others? Remember that you're trying to establish the veracity of your book's authority here.
There all valid. The verse to say Allah is expanding the universe is valid. The verse to Say Allah encompasses the Universe with his knowledge is valid. The verse to Allah provides is valid. The verse to say Allah is Rich and powerful is valid.
Allah says in the Qur'an:
ادْعُ إِلَىٰ سَبِيلِ رَبِّكَ بِالْحِكْمَةِ وَالْمَوْعِظَةِ الْحَسَنَةِ ۖ وَجَادِلْهُمْ بِالَّتِي هِيَ أَحْسَنُ ۚ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِمَنْ ضَلَّ عَنْ سَبِيلِهِ ۖ وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِالْمُهْتَدِينَ
"Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided." [Surah 16:125]
Prophet Muhammad (SAW) said: “The most complete in faith are those best in their character, those who are easy to socialise with, and those who get along with others and others get along with them. There is no good in the one who cannot get along with others and others cannot get along with him.” -Tirmidhi
Sahih Muslim, Book 32, Number 6307:
'Abdullah reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: “Truth leads one to Paradise and virtue leads one to Paradise and the person tells the truth until he is recorded as truthful, and lie leads to obscenity and obscenity leads to Hell, and the person tells a lie until he is recorded as a liar.”
ادْعُ إِلَىٰ سَبِيلِ رَبِّكَ بِالْحِكْمَةِ وَالْمَوْعِظَةِ الْحَسَنَةِ ۖ وَجَادِلْهُمْ بِالَّتِي هِيَ أَحْسَنُ ۚ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِمَنْ ضَلَّ عَنْ سَبِيلِهِ ۖ وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِالْمُهْتَدِينَ
"Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided." [Surah 16:125]
Prophet Muhammad (SAW) said: “The most complete in faith are those best in their character, those who are easy to socialise with, and those who get along with others and others get along with them. There is no good in the one who cannot get along with others and others cannot get along with him.” -Tirmidhi
Sahih Muslim, Book 32, Number 6307:
'Abdullah reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: “Truth leads one to Paradise and virtue leads one to Paradise and the person tells the truth until he is recorded as truthful, and lie leads to obscenity and obscenity leads to Hell, and the person tells a lie until he is recorded as a liar.”
