RE: What is Your Approach?
August 7, 2013 at 7:31 pm
(This post was last modified: August 7, 2013 at 7:31 pm by Locke.)
(August 7, 2013 at 4:55 pm)Insanity x Wrote: Who's we?
When I say 'we' I simply mean people in general, not people on this forum, or atheists.. just people in general.
And no, I didn't make this post to prove you're all cherry-picking to support your views.
The Fireside Delusion is a great analogy. I completely relate to having to deal with religious people who, nearly unanimously, hold to their beliefs irrationally. While I know little of the people on this forum, I do know that most atheists I've met have been equally angry and irrational, so thus far it looks like it's just people, nonspecific to atheism or theism.
Furthermore, I will reiterate that I joined this forum in order to learn, not argue my stances.. I just wanted to see where your heads were at.
Still seems to me that, all bias aside, the lines of proof between atheism and theism are pretty even.. at least in most warring groups.
I have, however, decided to go with Christianity for a few reasons. I find it harder, more purpose-filled, and more rewarding than my life ever was before (I say that with a disclaimer: An overwhelming amount of people who say they are Christian don't fit the Bible definition of a Christian, or even know what that definition is).
The other big reason is that I heard the Bible has contradictions, extreme inconsistencies and errors, and historical inaccuracy, but when I looked into it myself I found all those claims to be bias and false.. which is a big statement considering the amount of claims there are. It seems to me this is due equally in part to non-christian groups attacking it, and pseudo-Christian groups claiming it teaches things it does not, either to fit their needs or in some demented hope it will make their point more valid, because they simply want it to be true.
The funny thing is, if they really knew what the Bible taught they wouldn't be so quick to advocate it =P
Now.. I'm basically staking my life on it being true, and to be honest it would be a whole lot easier if it wasn't.. but hey, here I am, asking around for evidence it isn't and nobody has been able to provide any. And yes, I understand your position when you say you don't feel a need to prove Atheism.. but while that's awesome, I am basically here to try and disprove Christianity, so I'm gonna keep looking for anything I can find.
I will clarify that what I have seen disproved is a myriad of things pseudo-Christians claim the Bible teaches, but that's really no surprise.
I've done 2 1/2 years of research into this, which is far from a lifetime, so I understand I've got a lot to learn, but if anyone wants to get past the constant bickering and jabbing and provide evidence (some of you seem to be doing that here, so I appreciate that) then I'm game to look into it.
(August 7, 2013 at 5:23 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: It was the writings of Robert Green Ingersoll that helped me to denounce theism as nothing more than a silly fairy tale.
I'll check him out