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Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
(August 12, 2013 at 5:06 pm)Godschild Wrote: Why do you believe that God is not bound by the truth of His law, not the laws He gave man to live by, but actually who He is.
If god is omnipotent and the very top of all order, he sets his own laws. If he has constrains that he must work within, he not omnipotent.
(August 12, 2013 at 5:06 pm)Godschild Wrote: Judges are always reworking the judicial system in many ways.
That they are. But they can't just snap their fingers and have something changed. There are processes and systems they have to go through not enact something.
(August 12, 2013 at 5:06 pm)Godschild Wrote: God did not create the system one is judged by, one is judged by the righteousness of God, God was not created and neither was His justice.
So, god is not the one who determines who/what is good or bad?
Is it impossible for him to alter the terms?
Again, if it is impossible, he is not omnipotent. If it is possible, then it's a decision he makes as to who/what is good or bad.
(August 12, 2013 at 5:06 pm)Godschild Wrote: That's not what God said to Adam and Eve, but maybe it was in the book you were reading, seeing how the JWs rewrote the Bible to suit them.
15 The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”-NIV

15 The Lord God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to work it and keep it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “You may surely eat of every tree of the garden, 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat[a] of it you shall surely die.”-ESV



15 And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.-KJV

I'm having a hard time finding the version that ends with..."in the day you eat it you shall surely be tormented forever"...Huh
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Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Michael Schubert - August 10, 2013 at 8:23 pm
RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by The Reality Salesman - August 10, 2013 at 8:41 pm
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by The Reality Salesman - August 10, 2013 at 9:00 pm
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by The Reality Salesman - August 11, 2013 at 9:15 am
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Tonus - August 11, 2013 at 9:39 pm
RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Godschild - August 12, 2013 at 12:02 am
RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Bad Writer - August 12, 2013 at 12:11 am
RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Godschild - August 12, 2013 at 1:25 am
RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Captain Colostomy - August 12, 2013 at 1:05 am
RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Godschild - August 12, 2013 at 1:29 am
RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Captain Colostomy - August 12, 2013 at 1:32 am
RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Paraselene - August 12, 2013 at 1:32 am
RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Captain Colostomy - August 12, 2013 at 1:35 am
RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Godschild - August 12, 2013 at 1:38 am
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Godschild - August 12, 2013 at 4:28 am
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Godschild - August 14, 2013 at 6:30 pm
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by LostLocke - August 16, 2013 at 12:38 pm
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Michael Schubert - August 17, 2013 at 11:09 pm
RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Godschild - August 18, 2013 at 10:57 pm
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Godschild - August 19, 2013 at 2:40 pm
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Godschild - August 20, 2013 at 12:08 am
RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Chas - August 20, 2013 at 1:45 pm
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Edwardo Piet - August 12, 2013 at 4:48 pm
RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Bad Writer - August 12, 2013 at 5:18 pm
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Bad Writer - August 12, 2013 at 6:07 pm
RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Captain Colostomy - August 12, 2013 at 6:13 pm
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by The Reality Salesman - August 20, 2013 at 8:42 am
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by KichigaiNeko - August 21, 2013 at 1:51 am
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